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Sea Harrier XZ457?

Does anyone know the current whereabouts of the famous Sea Harrier XZ457? Any good pictures?

Thanks.

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By: WP840 - 22nd December 2013 at 20:27

I thought so, as mad as a box of frogs!

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By: The Bump - 22nd December 2013 at 16:35

It’s obvious these people have not seen the photos from the boneyard at DM……

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By: Mike J - 21st December 2013 at 16:50

Barking!

I thought they’d all gone to Arizona, not to Essex!

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By: David Burke - 21st December 2013 at 16:23

Barking!

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By: WP840 - 21st December 2013 at 14:38

Bump!
What do the forumites on here think of this proposal…?
http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/yoursay/salisburyletters/10884949.Help_us_bring_back_Harrier_jump_jets/

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By: DaveF68 - 25th January 2013 at 00:32

The GR.3’s had ferry wing tips kitted but I never saw them used!

The advantage they gave in terms of extending range was negated by the time taken to refit the standard ones, as the ferry ones weren’t combat rated. And you needed a spare C-130 to bring the standard ones!!

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By: ollieholmes - 24th January 2013 at 22:36

come and visit XZ457 on 23rd March 2013 at our aerojumble!
We will be having a Harrier celebration day later in the year

Have you got more details on this? Id like to attend.

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By: bazv - 24th January 2013 at 22:07

Yes David…the tip changes I mentioned were during the FRS2 development programme,otherwise I never saw them used either.
Ref the FRS2 I have seen references to a possible requirement because of amraam/aim120 but that other wing refinements negated the need for modified tips (perhaps the ‘filled in’ dog tooth etc ?).
Night shift…kept in the dark and FOBS 😀

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By: David Burke - 24th January 2013 at 21:49

The GR.3’s had ferry wing tips kitted but I never saw them used!

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By: bazv - 24th January 2013 at 21:30

The origginal FA2 also flew with extended wing tips, but these were not adopted for service..

Hmmmm…yes I used to have the ‘pleasure’ of re-roleing between ‘Ferry Tips’ and ‘Combat Tips’ on the night shift at Dunsfold…. istr a bit of a cow of a job LOL (but a doddle compared to some jobs on the FU2 :D).
I am not 100% sure why they were not adopted,we heard some rumours but possibly the tips did not give enough advantage to bother with !

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By: DaveF68 - 24th January 2013 at 20:58

! As for a ‘kink’ in the wing – not aware of that happening!

The ‘kink’ is in the leading edge of the FA2 when viewed in plan, and replaced the dog tooth that was present in earlier Harrier wings. Effectively, they faired over the dog tooth.They also added an extra fence just inboard of the ‘kink’

http://cdn.hdwallpaperspics.com/uploads/2012/12/Royal-Navy-Sea-Harrier.jpg

The origginal FA2 also flew with extended wing tips, but these were not adopted for service.

The only way to produce a replica FRS1 now would be to speak nicely to those Indian chaps, who may have some bits lying around.

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By: Ant.H - 24th January 2013 at 20:54

Thanks Baz, that clears that one up.

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By: bazv - 24th January 2013 at 20:13

Just a quickie regarding the fuselage extension plugs on the FA.2, I thought the first example had the plug but it was then decided to give the rest of the fleet a completely new rear fuselage?

The surviving FRS 1’s were converted to FRS2/FA2 standard by adding the ‘plug’ into the original fuselage,so retained the original rear fuselage.
The later (22 ?) batch in the ZH*** serial range were completely new build a/c !

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By: pagen01 - 24th January 2013 at 19:32

A Harrier themed day sounds really good, perhaps others can be persuaded to bring cockpits, displays and stick tops etc.

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By: Rocketeer - 24th January 2013 at 19:14

Dave, we are hoping to do a Harrier celebration day, where we would offer close access to the SHAR, talks on the Harrier, maybe a famous TP might come over, photo access.
Hoping to do several particularly themed days as it were

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By: Ant.H - 24th January 2013 at 16:30

Just a quickie regarding the fuselage extension plugs on the FA.2, I thought the first example had the plug but it was then decided to give the rest of the fleet a completely new rear fuselage?

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By: Creaking Door - 24th January 2013 at 15:17

Not sure if the Sea Harrier is the most successful combat aircraft produced since WW11 in Europe!!

Well, slightly tongue-in-cheek maybe but I don’t know if such a small number of European aircraft has shot-down so many aircraft in so few days of combat (post WW2).

(Only just noticed the original post is seven years old!)

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By: Arabella-Cox - 24th January 2013 at 14:30

We will be having a Harrier celebration day later in the year

Really ? Tell me more. My GR.9 is nearly ready for public viewing

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By: David Burke - 24th January 2013 at 14:29

Not sure if the Sea Harrier is the most successful combat aircraft produced since WW11 in Europe ! I should imagine Hawker’s other product the Hunter must have a few air to air kills to its name and in parts of Africa it’s the machine of legend!
As for the other points -lots of ideas were bandied around to improve the Harrier I series including bigger wings and LERX . However it didn’t happen! As for a ‘kink’ in the wing – not aware of that happening!

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By: Creaking Door - 24th January 2013 at 14:22

LERX on FA2?!

I thought that was part of the original plan for a post-Falklands upgrade to the FRS1?

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