Anyone identify these aircraft?
They were taken by a distant relative sometime in the 1920’s or 30’s, I presume in Europe (Italy??). The scans are from poor prints, but the negs are exist (hence info not visible on the scans).
Both shots are of the same aircraft, S-1041, number 4. “S1041” is also painted under both lower wings. The aircraft has uncowled engines, perhaps for servicing.
The other aircraft visible is the same type with code letter “3”.
I take it that this is not a Walrus 😉
By: mike currill - 28th July 2004 at 21:39
Beat me to it :rolleyes: , Went in to service in 1925 not long before Vickers absorbed Supermarine, Well known for there long cruise flights, Succeeded by the much refined Scapa of 1932 and Stranraer of 1935, And not to forget the Walrus and sea Otter which earned their place in FAA history during WW2. Cheers for now, Tally Ho! Phil. 😉
and the Seagull which never got beyond the prototype stage as far as I can tell.
By: Flood - 28th July 2004 at 21:05
S1041 was a Supermarine Southampton MkI, according to Air Britains RAF Aircraft J1-J9999 and WWI Survivors (don’t ask!):
AP Flt 9/26; renamed Nav School 12/26 – 3/27; STF; APS; Conv to MkII; 201Sqn 6/9/29; 204Sqn 3/30 – 6/30; 210Sqn; 204Sqn 2/31; Mkrs 7/5/31; FBPC -/32; Calshot 1/33.
Abbreviations:
AP Flt – ?
STF – Seaplane Training Flight
APS – Air Pilotage School
FBPC – Flying Boat Practice Camp
Ian – the last Southampton mentioned in service (that I could find) was S1228 at MAEE (Marine Aircraft Experimental Establishment) 1/37-2/37. Might you be thinking of its (probable) replacement, the Saro London, which entered service in 1936?
Flood.â„¢
By: Alistair - 28th July 2004 at 19:59
Certainly the same aircraft type. The relative concerned did have south coast connections so maybe taken in the Bournemouth to Southampton areas.
Anybody guess a unit and date?
According to British Flying Boats by Peter London, Southamptons served with the following squadrons:
No. 201 (Calshot)
No. 203 (Iraq)
No. 204 (Mount Batten)
No. 205 (Singapore)
No. 210 (Felixstowe and Pembroke Dock)
It’s a Southampton I, made in response to specification to Requirement 11/25 and so the photo’s probably between 1926 and whenever it got upgraded to a metal hull… (early 30s?)
Sorry I can’t find more.
Regards
Alistair
By: EN830 - 28th July 2004 at 17:12
Weren’t the Southamptons sent out to the far east during the first year/s of the war ?
I recall a picture being published in the Jersey Evening Post a couple of years ago of a Southampton passing over the south coast of the Island. They use to stage through the Islands on a regular basis.
By: STORMBIRD262 - 28th July 2004 at 16:52
Thats the one.
Beat me to it :rolleyes: , Went in to service in 1925 not long before Vickers absorbed Supermarine, Well known for there long cruise flights, Succeeded by the much refined Scapa of 1932 and Stranraer of 1935, And not to forget the Walrus and sea Otter which earned their place in FAA history during WW2. Cheers for now, Tally Ho! Phil. 😉
By: Ray Jade - 28th July 2004 at 16:46
I think it’s a Supermarine Southampton – check against these pictures:
http://www.seawings.co.uk/sotongal.htm
I thnk some were based in Malta, which may explain the background
Certainly the same aircraft type. The relative concerned did have south coast connections so maybe taken in the Bournemouth to Southampton areas.
Anybody guess a unit and date?
By: Ray Jade - 28th July 2004 at 16:41
Are you sure it’s not 1041?
My mistake, it is S-1041. The print I was using was reversed and somehow the grey matter didn’t bite. I’ll correct my post.
Ta
By: Alistair - 28th July 2004 at 16:39
I think it’s a Supermarine Southampton – check against these pictures:
http://www.seawings.co.uk/sotongal.htm
I thnk some were based in Malta, which may explain the background
By: VoyTech - 28th July 2004 at 16:38
Both shots are of the same aircraft, S-1014, number 4.
Are you sure it’s not 1041?
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