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Seafires And Latter Mark Spits

I am starting to make Airfix seafire FR46/47 i have no photos of these mark of spitfires has anyone here got any at all?It also come to my mind how many latter variant spitfires still exist i.e mks above the Pr19,Other than the TFC f21 are there any potential flyers?

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By: jbs - 18th December 2003 at 08:43

Mark12,

Thanks for sorting out the serial of that contra-prop Mk.21 for me

And there was me thinking it was a piccy of the “silver and red cross” schemed one used in the Blackpool races in 1947

Whereas the only thing they had in common was that they both served with CFE

Thanks again,

John

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By: Mark12 - 17th December 2003 at 20:45

drm075.

As posted five back!

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By: drm075 - 17th December 2003 at 18:58

Originally posted by Mark12
The Mk 22 that I still list is PK350. This is the Jack Malloch crash in Zimabawe twenty odd years ago. It made a mighty big hole in the ground but that said I suspect there are a few bits lurking in Zim and I would not rule out it being being a ‘starter kit’ for the future.

The Seafire 47 project are parts with a South Marston data plate recovered from a Nuneaton scrapyard in June 1984. Three young men have or had it. There may or may not have been a dispute on ownership. I have in my notes that one of the party is named Steve Bond (another Steve Bond). Serial associated is VP455.

Any further news or confirmation on this Seafire project welcome.

Mark

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What were the circumstances of the fatal crash?

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By: Mark12 - 17th December 2003 at 18:51

Spit,

Look no further than the ‘Neil Williams’ thread on this very page. It was the Seafire Mk 47 VP441 at Lavenham.

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By: SPIT - 17th December 2003 at 18:44

Hi
I am new to this forum but I just want to find out about a Spitfire Aircraft I saw.
It was in the 60s at a dissused airfield at Lavenham (suffolk). As well as them having a Lancaster NX 611 there was also a Contra Rotating Prop (Mk 24????) Spitfire there but not flying. Does anyone know which a/c this may have been and if so WHAT HAPPENED to it. Any help with this will be greatfully accepted???
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By: Mark V - 17th December 2003 at 18:28

Warpaint books

Finallly found a supplier for some of those out of print editions of warpaint, Hornet and Seafire are on the way!

Thanks for the assistance 🙂

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By: duxfordhawk - 17th December 2003 at 17:13

Thanks for the pictures and info on latter spits such a big gap at monent with no latter spits flying how many years you think it be before we see one of these fly?

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By: Mark12 - 17th December 2003 at 13:57

Seafuryfan,

That is the best one of about dozen I have, taken from the Vampire chase plane.

Whilst flying with the Vampire around the clouds I understand Jack Malloch entered a massive ‘thunderhead’ and it tumbled.

There is the most splendid video of the restoration with air to air, made as a tribute to Jack Malloch.

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By: Seafuryfan - 17th December 2003 at 13:33

At last! An air to air of the Malloch Spitfire – well done Mark 12. I never thought I’d see it – seems to be a very elusive Spitfire to be featured in the media. What a beauty.

Does anyone know why the aircraft crashed? I heard many years ago that the aircraft may have departed controlled flight in IMC.

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By: Mark V - 16th December 2003 at 22:57

Thanks for the lead Lauriebe 🙂

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By: Mark12 - 16th December 2003 at 19:28

JBS,

Your Mk 21 contra-prop GO-C is LA215.

The GO code in this case is actually the Central Fighter Establishment.

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By: jbs - 16th December 2003 at 15:03

Mark,

Oops my mistake, I did know that but in my defence……..erm, b*gger, can’t think of anything 😉

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By: Mark12 - 16th December 2003 at 14:59

JBS

PK519 is gunnery target rather than crash remains.

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By: jbs - 16th December 2003 at 13:08

Mark12/Laurie

Thanks for the info gents, interesting stuff

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By: lauriebe - 16th December 2003 at 13:02

Mark 12

Many thanks for that Mk 47 update. Just checked my database and the last entry I have for VP455 is in storage at Stretton on 25 June 1955. Like you, I would be very interested in any update.

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By: Mark12 - 16th December 2003 at 12:54

The Mk 22 that I still list is PK350. This is the Jack Malloch crash in Zimabawe twenty odd years ago. It made a mighty big hole in the ground but that said I suspect there are a few bits lurking in Zim and I would not rule out it being being a ‘starter kit’ for the future.

The Seafire 47 project are parts with a South Marston data plate recovered from a Nuneaton scrapyard in June 1984. Three young men have or had it. There may or may not have been a dispute on ownership. I have in my notes that one of the party is named Steve Bond (another Steve Bond). Serial associated is VP455.

Any further news or confirmation on this Seafire project welcome.

Mark

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By: lauriebe - 16th December 2003 at 12:32

Mark V:

I bought my copy at the RAF Museum some three years ago. The FAA Museum also had some copies a couple of years back. Don’t know about the present situation. Newark Air Museum Shop also had some copies a couple of years ago. You could try contacting their shop through their web site at:

www.newarkairmuseum.co.uk

I haven’t been in the UK for a couple of years, so I’m not up to speed on the present situation.

Mark 12:

I would be very interested in the second FR 47 as well!!!!

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By: jbs - 16th December 2003 at 12:19

Mark12,

Ok I’ll bite, I can’t work out your total’s

This is what I have so far,

Mk.21
LA198 – Static, Transport museum, Glasgow
LA226 – Stored, Cardington (?) for RAF Museum
LA255 – Static, 1 Sqn Association, RAF Cottesmore

Mk.22
PK355 – Static (?), Zimbabwe Military Museum, Zimbabwe
PK481 – Static, RAAF Association, Bull Creek, Western Australia
PK519 – Crash remains, Peter Arnold
PK624 – Project, TFC Duxford
PK664 – Stored, Cardington (?) for RAF Museum

Mk.24
PK683 – Static, Southampton Hall of Aviation
PK724 – Static, RAF Museum Hendon
VN485 – Static, IWM Duxford

Mk.46
LA546 – Project, Craig Charleston, Colchester
LA564 – Project, ex.Peter Arnold – new owner unknown :o)

Mk.47
VP441 – Project, with Ezell Aviation, Texas

From your numbers I seem to be missing 1x Mk.22, and 1x Mk.47 project – help !!!!!

Best regards,

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By: Mark12 - 16th December 2003 at 10:50

Duxfordhawk,

’20’ series Spitfire and ’40’ series Seafire extant.

Mk 21 – 3 off
Mk 22 – 4 off
Mk 22 project – 1 off
Mk 22 crash remains – 1 off
Mk 24 – 3 off

Mk 46 – 1 off
Mk 46 project – 1 off
Mk 47 – 1 off
Mk 47 project – 1 off

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By: DazDaMan - 16th December 2003 at 10:27

survivors

http://www.supermarine-spitfire.co.uk

There’s a list of surviving types here, although not sure how up-to-date it is. If anyone can point me to a better listing, that’d be good! (Or supply a list?)

Daz

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