Shackleton project thread – gone ?

Sure thing!

Thankyou all 🙂

For my own sake at this time, would it be possible for a mod to lock this thread where it stands, doesnt have to be deleted, but for now I think it has run its course 🙂

Cheers

Ben

This is going to make me more unpopular than I am anyway, but, did anyone else think that watching that thread was a bit like watching a car crash while being unable to do anything about it?

Before I get completely shot down, let me explain. Ben’s motive are obviously honest and genuine. Above all he’s passionate, but sometimes that passion has to be tempered with common sense. On several occasions I cringed at the direction that thread was taking and was sure there would be some acrimony enter into it at some stage. I don’t know whether ben’s still involved with the Shackleton now. I don’t need to know. The sad thing is that harm has come to both parties in this I’m sure.

Sometimes you need to take a step back and reassess things. Learn to walk confidently before trying to enter a sprint. I’m sure Ben will bounce back, enthusiasm undaunted but perhaps a little wiser. And if he has parted company with the Shackleton project, I’m sure they will be all the poorer for the loss too. I’m sure there are lessons to be learned.

Ben, you have the desire and the opportunity to become, in future, a stalwart in aircraft preservation. Don’t let what has happened to at least one former member here happen to you. They got c0cky, they got greedy and at the end of the day I’m not sure whether he lost interest in historic aviation or historic aviation lost interest in him.

Having read your other thread on Jaguars I can offer no advice on what you may/should acquire. Personally, I have a soft spot for the Vampire. Whatever you decide I know there is absolutely no shortage of good advice available on this forum.

Regards,

kev35

I Fully endorse what Kev says .Having been involved with both the inside and outside of Mr Collets empire and some of the strange twists and turns shall we call them I have great sympathy for anyone caught up in the politics rather than preservation aspects of the empire and its changes in mood and decisions both on and below the surface.If that makes sense ?.

Yes there are many projects out there and as well as restoring war birds I own two Vampires they are as Kev says a good introduction if you can get hold of one,there are a good few out there to be had but for the most part they need extensive woodwork as usual on the pods as some enthusiasts seem to misunderstand the differences in behaviour of different wooden materials and introdicing things like plastic padding etc.

What ever you decide to do and the direction to take there are as Kev says plenty of us on the forum will to give tips and suggestions and advice some good some indifferent and some debateable but thats life !!!.

If you want any information for a project etc drop me a PM we have an extensive library from WW1 right up to the mid 1950’s while not everytype a good selection .Also have some damn good contacts for good priced materials for statics as well as some really helpfull companies for machining and casting stuff.

Good Luck with what you do.

Mike (Firebex)

Actually mostly agree with Kev there. Though it is a shame that his hard work and enthusiasm with the Shack (aswel as promoting it here) seems to have gone unthanked really, that is probably the sad part of it.

Thanks Kev

Truthfully, that has brightened my evening 🙂

This is going to make me more unpopular than I am anyway, but, did anyone else think that watching that thread was a bit like watching a car crash while being unable to do anything about it?

Before I get completely shot down, let me explain. Ben’s motive are obviously honest and genuine. Above all he’s passionate, but sometimes that passion has to be tempered with common sense. On several occasions I cringed at the direction that thread was taking and was sure there would be some acrimony enter into it at some stage. I don’t know whether ben’s still involved with the Shackleton now. I don’t need to know. The sad thing is that harm has come to both parties in this I’m sure.

Sometimes you need to take a step back and reassess things. Learn to walk confidently before trying to enter a sprint. I’m sure Ben will bounce back, enthusiasm undaunted but perhaps a little wiser. And if he has parted company with the Shackleton project, I’m sure they will be all the poorer for the loss too. I’m sure there are lessons to be learned.

Ben, you have the desire and the opportunity to become, in future, a stalwart in aircraft preservation. Don’t let what has happened to at least one former member here happen to you. They got c0cky, they got greedy and at the end of the day I’m not sure whether he lost interest in historic aviation or historic aviation lost interest in him.

Having read your other thread on Jaguars I can offer no advice on what you may/should acquire. Personally, I have a soft spot for the Vampire. Whatever you decide I know there is absolutely no shortage of good advice available on this forum.

Regards,

kev35

As did I enjoy writing them. It is a shame but not the end of the world 🙂

Damn shame if you ask me 🙁 Loved reading your updates.

I deleted the thread TT.

It had caused problems with certain people above me, I thought that it would be better to remove it than edit it. I believe all future updates about WR963 are to be posted monthly on the airbase website.

Ben