Shocking Home eviction by corporate police, your views sort please.

Some information

http://www.dealingwithbailiffs.co.uk/bailiffs-and-police-official-guidance.htm

I am more than convinced that the police take their traditional and indeed additional responsibilities very seriously.

Just to-day, it was announced in my newspaper that a young man had lost his life while swimming in a Hampstead Heath pond set aside for that purpose while seven worthy Mr. Plods accompanied by sundry paramedics and firemen stood by chewing the fat while the drowning man’s friends tried desperately to rescue him. To no avail.

The police oath

I, … of … do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law.

Cheers Paul, It has changed. I see that the word “LIFE” has been omitted. So I.M.H.O. if you were threatening to jump off a bridge and commit suicide, a Copper could, in essence, just stand and watch you do it.I am not sure regarding the word, “Impartalty though, REASON?, In the Met Police, (Correct me if I am wrong) But they have a VERY high Ranking Officer who deals with serious complaints against white Officers, and his oppo, who is Coloured. who deals with complaints against Coloured Officers.Any of the two, whoever they are investigating should by the very definition, be impartial. What next one wonders, a High Ranking Officer who deals with Officers of differing Ethnic origins?.
Funny ole world, ennit. !!
Jim.
Lincoln .7

I have Googled the requirements to join the police and the training and ongoing assessment process as I was not aware of them and the issue was raised both in the video and here.

There are no formal educational requirements for entry to the police service. The profession is open to graduates, those with an HND qualification and non-graduates alike.

Candidates will need to show evidence of the following:
• effective communication skills, including tact and diplomacy;
• community focus;
• a sense of personal responsibility, integrity and resilience;
• problem-solving skills;
• a confident and calm manner;
• good literacy skills in order to accurately record details;
• respect for diversity;
• team working skills and the ability to work independently;
• professionalism, honesty and trustworthiness;
• sound judgement and a proper respect for confidentiality;
• ability to act with resolve, tolerance and restraint.

All probationary police constables in England and Wales undertake an extensive and professional training programme known as the Initial Police Learning and Development Programme (IPLDP), leading to the Level 3 Diploma in Policing (QCF), during their first two years of service.

the IPLDP curriculum is generally divided as follows:
• Phase 1: induction – general introduction to the organisation with training in first aid, health and safety, officer safety, ICT, race and diversity, human rights and community safety strategy.
• Phase 2: community – training in crime and disorder reduction and a community placement.
• Phase 3: supervised patrol – workplace practice supported by class-based learning, dealing with simulated incidents and work-based learning under supervised patrol.
• Phase 4: independent patrol – combines operational duties with independent and distance learning.

Continuing professional development (CPD) and ongoing training are important. Annual performance and development reviews (PDRs) assess and monitor the progress of police officers to ensure that their professional skills are kept up to date and they are abreast of the demands of a constantly changing work environment.

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/police_officer_entry_requirements.htm

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/police_officer_training.htm

And if the person inside will not open the door, as he clearly didn’t, what then?

Would it have made any difference if the bailiffs had broken the door down rather than the Police?

Yes the law in a civil case as I said the Police are there to prevent a breach of the peace not put doors in that is the job of Court Officials only. It is a civil case.

The police oath

I, … of … do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law.

http://metpolicewatchlondonboroughs.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/police-oath.html

IT IS NOT THERE JOB TO BREAK IN DOORS. Their job is to enable the bailiffs to gain entry without obstruction or violence! If the ‘professional’ activist ‘protectors’ kick off it is their job only to keep the Queens peace.
They completely overstepped the mark here. Police no Paramilitary filth yes out on a jolly. The gutless wonders will never go near a Travellers camp.I hope and pray these thugs in new Britain get the pension they deserve and don’t resign at the drop of the hat if a discaplinery charge is brought against them.
Yes I have watched the video. Shortage of Police Officers? how many were there milling about. It was not as if they were there to evict Chuck Norris.
To Lincoln7 over the top or not?

All I can say is, when I was PROUD to be a Police Officer, things would not have created the same amount of Officers as this incident did. The word I am looking for is Sympathetic, towards the evicted person. Perhaps not in the same circumstances Paul, but how many of us have said to ourselves, “There but for the grace of God, go I” ?.
Warren and John, You MAY both be wrong in assuming what you have both stated what a Police Officer may do. Unless things have changed since I retired, I had to swear an oath to Her Majesty, quote part, “To protect LIFE and PROPERTY” EQ.

As regards Police today, I would be discusted to even say I were a serving Officer. I could go on, but………
Jim.
Lincoln .7

IT IS NOT THERE JOB TO BREAK IN DOORS. Their job is to enable the bailiffs to gain entry without obstruction or violence!

Sorry, but that’s emotive nonsense; if the bailiffs have been inside the property before (and we have no way of knowing if that’s the case,) they are empowered to gain re-entry by any means, and the tools used by the police are likely to cause the least amount of damage to life and limb (and that’s what matters, not bricks and mortar.)

I would summarise it by saying that the video was posted for effect not for edification.

Exactly. These self-styled ‘protectors’ turn-up in some numbers (all with their camera-phones), behave in a confrontational manner, and when the bailiffs call in Police support the self-styled ‘freedom-fighters’ post their (edited?) video on YouTube claiming that this shows that we are ‘sleepwalking into tyranny’!

Presumably the bailiffs were acting within the law after proper court hearings…

…if the man had accepted the judgement of the courts and gone quietly there would have been no need for so many Police, no need for the Police ‘Riot Squad’, no ridiculous waste of Police time and public-money and the Police could have spent their time catching (real) criminals…

…but no, as you say, this event was staged for the benefit of the (many) cameras present!

IT IS NOT THEIR JOB TO BREAK IN DOORS. Their job is to enable the bailiffs to gain entry without obstruction or violence!

And if the person inside will not open the door, as he clearly didn’t, what then?

Would it have made any difference if the bailiffs had broken the door down rather than the Police?

I would summarise it by saying that the video was posted for effect not for edification.

Initially just a few police officers were at the scene attempting a peaceful resolution, with the rent a mob gang in attendance that simply wasn’t going to happen, as far as the rights and wrongs of the case, I don’t know the details, comment is superfluous.

I would imagine the heavy mob were there, simply because of the situation, looks like overkill, but all you need is one of the protectors wanted to make their name known and the whole damn thing could kick off.

Actually, having finally seen (most of) the video, I think the Police behaved in a manner that was far from ‘ignorant’; even when goaded by the ‘professional’ activist ‘protectors’ the Police remained calm and went about their job in a very professional manner.

Have you actually watched the video?

IT IS NOT THERE JOB TO BREAK IN DOORS. Their job is to enable the bailiffs to gain entry without obstruction or violence! If the ‘professional’ activist ‘protectors’ kick off it is their job only to keep the Queens peace.
They completely overstepped the mark here. Police no Paramilitary filth yes out on a jolly. The gutless wonders will never go near a Travellers camp.I hope and pray these thugs in new Britain get the pension they deserve and don’t resign at the drop of the hat if a discaplinery charge is brought against them.
Yes I have watched the video. Shortage of Police Officers? how many were there milling about. It was not as if they were there to evict Chuck Norris.
To Lincoln7 over the top or not?

CD

No, in fact they don’t. Their ‘only’ duty is the prevention and detection of crime and the apprehension of the wrong doer.

That was the original remit. In an ill advised attempt to be all things to all people, they invented other responsibilities which hold water when it suits them and doesn’t when it doesn’t.

Very strange that during the video the activist ‘protectors’ repeatedly goaded the Police by stating that the Police had a duty to ‘protect’ the population; as far as I know the Police only have a duty to protect people from ‘unlawful’ injury or distress…

…and surely this duty has to be in conflict with their other duty of upholding the law?

CD

Yes. My opinion of the police is generally not very high. I replied within that context.

I think what we have here is, probably, a fairly simple case of debt and bankruptcy, complicated by the forced eviction of a single parent with young children…

…and massively complicated by being propagandised by ‘anti-globalisation’ activists who refer to themselves as ‘protectors’ in the video they have uploaded to YouTube!

Follow a few of the links from the video! They lead to a rather confused ‘activist’ website that spouts the usual nonsense about how we are all living in a police-state and as soon as ‘honest working (class) people fail to pay their taxes’ they are set-upon by the fascist ‘corporate’ police of the elite ruling-class of bankers, profiteers, government, big-business and royalty!

The website talks of ‘9/11’ and ‘7/7’ being ‘false-flag’ operations and, no doubt, if you dig deep enough, it will start talking about the ‘illuminati’ and ‘reptilian alien life-forms’ that conspire to oppress all us human slaves!

It is a bizarre conflation of something between science-fiction and paranoid delusional mental illness.

Whatever problems the unfortunate man and his family featured in this video have I doubt it is being helped by those that posted this video; they seem to be simply using his case to pursue their own extreme agenda.

Actually, having finally seen (most of) the video, I think the Police behaved in a manner that was far from ‘ignorant’; even when goaded by the ‘professional’ activist ‘protectors’ the Police remained calm and went about their job in a very professional manner.

Have you actually watched the video?

This is the kind of police force you get when you recruit from the ranks of a largely ignorant and uneducated public.

Anybody can make a bankruptcy petition to a court if they are owed a minimum of £750 or have a share in money owed exceeding £750. You are declared bankrupt by the court when a petition has been received and processed.

I have seen similar cases where the costs rise very, very quickly due to solicitors, court and bailiff fees. The size of the debt would indicate to me that this has been going on for some time.