Short Scion

Indeed yes! With the arrival of the former EI-AFF last year it should be the best chance !

David,

I presume you mean that contacting the guys at Shobden would be Vanessa’s best bet?

The guys at Shobdon are the best best!

G-ADPS is only one showing on GINFO as being currently having a current Permit.

There’s an interesting challenge! Rule out Comper Swifts (I’m assuming that Ms. French’s mother is not in a position to be flying one solo in her ninth decade) and are there any other Pobjoy powered aircraft – particularly with two or more seats – airworthy nowadays?

Best chance has got to be a BA Swallow but not sure whether any of the UK aircraft has a current CofA.

There’s an interesting challenge! Rule out Comper Swifts (I’m assuming that Ms. French’s mother is not in a position to be flying one solo in her ninth decade) and are there any other Pobjoy powered aircraft – particularly with two or more seats – airworthy nowadays?

Scion

Hi! – I am Douglas Pobjoy’s grand-daughter and I am really keen to have a word with you as I know you are currently restoring some of my grandfather’s engines. The pictures are AMAZING!. I am also going to make a website for him and would love to incorporate your renovations within that. In addition my mother is 85 and it is my ambition to get her up in a plane that has one of her father’s engines in it on her birthday this year, August 13th, and wondered whether you could help me with this? Do, please, if you can, give me a call on 07776 241552 as I would really love to chat with you. Kind regards. Vanessa French 07776 241552

Thanks for that link, can’t have enough Shorts memories!

G-AEZF
http://www.slomanpettitt.com/tonystigle05/mapsl/sion/Scion.htm
Last photo April 2014

It is the one that lurked in the back of a hangar at Redhill for many years.

I heard that a Scion Seaplane is under restoration presently at Rochester, don’t know which one though.

Scion Prop

I know where a Scion prop is lurking;one of the last to come out of the ‘Weyrock’ (Airscrew Co Weybridge).It is huge and is for a Pobjoy Niagra.
It was tested on a Swift,but only had a few inches ground clearance with the tail down.The test flight required it to be flown off in a three point attitude and switched off in the flare.
The climb was positively ballistic,but had to be throttled back in level flight to keep the revs down.
I think this was the only flight it had ever made,as the previous owner was given it direct from the factory as new but unsold stock.
I think a monospar prop is ok for the swift due to its reduced dia.

Thanks Bager1968. I was so surprised to see the picture that I didn’t look at the posting date. I. along with Stan and David Brett and some of the other volunteers were quite regular visitors to the remains of the Scion when it was derelict (as shown in the photo) so it brought back a lot of memories.
Amazingly I first met Guildman (who bumped the thread) around 30 years ago when we were both involved in the model car industry. We lost contact fo a very long time and only recent got in touch again through a model car forum. It can be a very small world.

Thanks. Perhaps a mail to the Ulster museum might elicit some news.

Martin

Your picture …

The post to which you have responded was posted on 6th July 2006, 09:00, over a year before you joined the forum. However, since G-ORDY is still posting here I’m sure he, like the rest of us (myself included) will appreciate the updated info on the airframe.

The ex-Strathallan Scion I is still in store with the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum as far as I know. Last reports were that no further work had been carried out on it. The attached photo was taken at Strathallan.

Coincidentally, I too was looking for another slide when I came across this one of the remains of G-AEZF. I took the photo at Southend on 27 May 1972, I was there representing “Aviation News” at the official opening of the Historic Aircraft Museum.

Your picture shows the Scion beside the old Tradair hangar around the time the hangar was being cleared following the demise of Channel Airways. The fuselage is complete in your picture but it couldn’t have been too long afterwards that someone cut the fuselage in two and drove a tractor over the wings which must be laying somewhere in all the grass and weeds a short distance from the fuselage and probably behind you when you took the photo.
The hangar with the light blue door is part of a two blocks of hangars for light aircraft, part of which was rented by the museum. Much of the restoration work on Proctor NP303/G-ANZJ was carried out in that hangar and it also housed the Fiat G46 until it was moved to the museum for repaint and assembly prior to the opening. Tiger Moth G-APMM and Stampe F-BDFE which were owned by the museum but never displayed were also stored in this hangar in pieces. The incomplete brick building, in the background, is the back of the Airport Motel – now The Skylark Hotel and the museum building can just be made out between the incomplete brick building and the light aircraft hangar.
The museum had looked at the Scion and reckoned it wasn’t worth saving. I later saw the fuelage in two pieces behind the museum hangar after it was saved by the East Anglian Aviation Society but I wasn’t aware that the wings had survived and have always assumed they were either removed by the scrappie who cleared the hangar or may be still lurking in the long grass 40 years later.
The parts that we could have saved would probably be regarded as a viable long term restoration project now but in those days we had neither the resources or skills to believe that it was restorable.
I have always regretted that so little thought was given to saving EZF at that time and although it still fights for survival I always view it as one that got away.
Thanks for publishing the pic. It brought back many memories. There was a photo of David Brett, myself and 2 or 3 other museum volunteers standing on the floor inside the Scion frame with most of us wearing oxygen masks. I am sure Stan Brett took the photo so it may well survive in his photo collection.

Since I am planning a model kit of the Scion II, may I bump this thread and ask if the aircraft being restored is done yet and where it is currently?

Thanks,
Martin

About a dozen slides, one of each of the significant aircraft, plus B&W. Also took shots on several other visits. Want me to scan & post?

Yes please, very much. Can’t wait to see them

About a dozen slides, one of each of the significant aircraft, plus B&W. Also took shots on several other visits. Want me to scan & post?

Yes Please with sugar strands and a cherry on top.