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Short Stirling – No 7 Sqdn Query

Is there a Short Stirling / No 7 Squadron expert who could give me some guidance please? On 28 November 1940 two Luftwaffe raiders were plotted by sound in the Forth Estuary according to 13 Group ORB for that date. Bombs were dropped close to the Forth bridge and AA guns were in action. The ORB mentions there were two Stirlings in the vicinity but I was wondering what Stirlings would have been doing in the area as I was under the impression that they would have been located at bomber bases further south?
Does anybody have any ideas?

Many Thanks
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By: Wokka Bob - 29th January 2014 at 20:00

Old Git, my pleasure.

I cannot assist on hard evidence for the Condor flights. From what I have read though, this would have been a very rare occasion. Thought they were mainly on maritime ops in 1940. But there again, longish flight, jettison load, oops!

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By: Old Git - 28th January 2014 at 21:28

The 7 Sqn ORB is very sparse until 1941, BUT!:

“Nov 28 1940; Stirling N.3638 had to make a forced landing near Edinburgh due to engine trouble, and this was successfully accomplished on the small Turnhouse aerodrome by P/O R.W. Cox and A/C being undamaged.”

The previous entry highlighted the problems with serviceability and modifications that had a significant impact on training. ‘Most flying being done in the two or three of the aircraft more serviceable than the others’.

May also be worth looking into 149 Sqn which formed with Stirlings at the beginning of Nov 1940.

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Wokka Bob – That is what I was after thank you v much. I will have a look at 149 Sqdn as well. The thing is that 3 FW200s had flown up from Bordeaux and came up the Clyde, bombed Falkirk outskirts and looked as if they carried on. There was heavy cloud cover that day and I was wondering if the Stirlings were being confused with the FW200s if anyone had observed them in a gap in the clouds. I am trying to get confirmation of the FW200s because this would have been a rare occurrence. The info on the FW200s has come from Luftwaffe sources.

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By: Wokka Bob - 28th January 2014 at 15:01

The 7 Sqn ORB is very sparse until 1941, BUT!:

“Nov 28 1940; Stirling N.3638 had to make a forced landing near Edinburgh due to engine trouble, and this was successfully accomplished on the small Turnhouse aerodrome by P/O R.W. Cox and A/C being undamaged.”

The previous entry highlighted the problems with serviceability and modifications that had a significant impact on training. ‘Most flying being done in the two or three of the aircraft more serviceable than the others’.

May also be worth looking into 149 Sqn which formed with Stirlings at the beginning of Nov 1940.

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By: Ian Hunt - 28th January 2014 at 13:32

Sorry no definite info, but maybe a simple navigation / training flight over the UK?

No doubt someone will come up with the answer.

Ian

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