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Shot this one in Germany this morning

At former RAF Laarbruch, now Niederrhein Airport, I shot Europes last flying piston powered S58. Might even be the last one in the world as most, if not all other flyers have a turbo engine installed. BW Roger

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 28th December 2004 at 22:44

Yes, thanks for that Willy! I wish every aircraft type had its own website like that.

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By: EHVB - 28th December 2004 at 22:23

Thanks Willy, that’s a very interesting site. Always loved the Koksijde S58’s and I still must have slides somewhere of the last flight during the open door somewhere in 1984 or 1986. I am getting old. The movie is called Die Sturmflut, and is made on behalf of RTL for the German television. It won’t be out for a full year, in early 2006. the same producer however is also making a movie on the Berlin Airlift, whih means that at least some Dakota’s and Skymasters are needed. He also makes a movie on Dresden, don’t know what that will bring to germany. BW Roger

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By: willy.henderick - 23rd December 2004 at 17:20

Roger and Albert you can have a look at:

http://membres.lycos.fr/sikofab/index.html

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By: Stieglitz - 23rd December 2004 at 15:33

It is a bit different, but even here in Belgium we have some little problems. The Unique finnish Viima II which carries the finnish cross has been subject to debate to some airshow visitors. But I don’t think you can compare it to dutch critisism. :rolleyes:

PS: I’ve send a mail to that contact adres.

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By: EHVB - 23rd December 2004 at 15:15

Do you know what is so strange between Belgium (and the rest of the world). When a FW190 should be obtained by a Dutchman who was to base it in Holland and flew it in full (and I mean full) Luftwaffe livery, I am sure it would result in 2 things within weeks: questions in the parlement and, I am 100% sure, it would be destroyed (by arson or on an open day or so)! Remember Lelystad, the JU52 escaped bad press only because the tail was “unpainted”. So I am glad it will be based at your side of the border where people see things in historical perspective.

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By: Stieglitz - 23rd December 2004 at 14:43

Apart from that , the sound is awesome, and it is so big , heavy and slow. Do you know who in Belgium bought one of the Flugwerk FW190ties? Is it our mutual “friend” :diablo: who so seldom shows up?

BW Roger

I wouldn’t know Roger, but I fear your guess could be right. I’ll certainly inform about it, but for now, I’ll can’t answer the question.

But who ever the owner is, it will be a great addition to the Belgian historic potential.

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By: EHVB - 22nd December 2004 at 22:15

We hope that the Sikorsky will attend due to it’s historic connection to Belgium and because it is so rare

Apart from that , the sound is awesome, and it is so big , heavy and slow. Do you know who in Belgium bought one of the Flugwerk FW190ties? Is it our mutual “friend” :diablo: who so seldom shows up?

BW Roger

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By: Guzzineil - 22nd December 2004 at 21:35

Yes Roger, it’s a shame it’s actually an airline variant with all those windows and would look much nicer restored back to its original SABENA livery.It was actually Belgian AF B15/OT-ZKP and here it is in its previous scheme and in its original SABENA livery as OO-SHP

The original scheme would look nice in 1/72 scale too, eh Albert?? ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€
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By: Stieglitz - 22nd December 2004 at 20:20

I called my friend tonight. He and I are currently bussy to contact possible attending aircraft and we will contact the crew of the sikorsky and I’ll send them a invitation. So we will have to wait and see.

We hope that the sikorsky will attend due to it’s historic connection to Belgium and because it is so rare.

Thanks for the adres Roger.

Cheers,

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By: EHVB - 22nd December 2004 at 12:33

Hi Jochen,

Mailed you the contact adress for the S58! Is it possible to camp at W&W?

BW Roger

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By: Ice Cold Katie - 20th December 2004 at 17:14

Surviving P-47S

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It’s D-HAUG, should be a former SABENA S-58C.

Does anyone have, or know where I can find, a list of surviving P-47 Thunderbolts. Half of the 47’s were made here in Evansville and we would like
to diplay one with other examples of how our city helped win WW2. The center-piece of this display will be a LCT (landing craft).

Thank you for your interest.
Carl Fischer
1206 Harrelton Ct
Evansville IN, 47714

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By: Stieglitz - 20th December 2004 at 16:50

Wel yes Roger. It comes together with schaffen Diest. Sorry about that, but maybe you can visit schaffen on Saturday and WAW on Sunday.

Sanicole is one week earlier.

By the way, we would love to work together with schaffen to attract more classic planes.

It’s intended that this years WAW event will attract more warbirds (so no more Pitts or any other modern acro plane). It is intended to realy focus on oldtimers. Schaffen will attract more planes in quantity, but we hope to bring the Quality of real big vintage planes.

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By: EHVB - 20th December 2004 at 16:44

Thanks Albert, great looking in the Sabena colours. Living near Valkenburg NAS I have lot’s om memories of MLD S58’s overflying my school. Unfortunatly, Valkenburg was closed today as a certain minister of defence thought it was useless. So he closed the base and sold the Orions (which are undergoing a 250.000.000 Euro updating program to the Germans with a gigantic loss.

Jochen, I can give you the S58 contact if you want. Isn’t the date the same as Sanicolle and Schaffen Diest? Don’t mind the first but do mind the second.

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By: Stieglitz - 20th December 2004 at 16:41

If anyone cares,

I realy enjoy this tread! ๐Ÿ™‚

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 20th December 2004 at 16:35

Yes Roger, it’s a shame it’s actually an airline variant with all those windows and would look much nicer restored back to its original SABENA livery.It was actually Belgian AF B15/OT-ZKP and here it is in its previous scheme and in its original SABENA livery as OO-SHP

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By: Stieglitz - 20th December 2004 at 16:33

Thanks for that info Albert!

Everything is possible for a certain event Roger. ๐Ÿ˜‰ But I need to find a way to contact the machine. And of course, we must have sufficient sponsers to get it over here.

PS: Wings and Wheels will take place on august 13-14-15 and NOT on august 12 as previously reported. But a lot of work still needs to be done.

I’ll keep you informed.

Greets,
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By: EHVB - 20th December 2004 at 16:23

As can be seen, it is still showing its past as it is fitted with passenger doors. I understand that the chopper still carries passengers during airshow joyflights. So Jochen, isn’t this another candidate for a certain mid August event? Blend in well with all the other olive drab things there. Its HEER livery is due to its roll in a movie. Yesterday they were shooting some scenes, and thats how I scored it.

Anyone has a pic of it as OO-SHL???????

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 20th December 2004 at 16:23

If I’m correct, this is a ex Belgian Air Force craft. Does anyone recall the belgian serial it had?

J.V.

I think it must be Belgian AF B15/OT-ZKP as I think that’s the only surviving former SABENA machine with the extra passengers windows and was OO-SHP.

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By: Stieglitz - 20th December 2004 at 16:10

I knew it was a ex Gelgian Airforce helicopter, but I didn’t knew it was also a ex Sabena craft. It’s always nice to learn. ๐Ÿ™‚

Thanks Arthur and Willy,

J.V.

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By: willy.henderick - 20th December 2004 at 15:40

Arthur is right D-HAUB is an ex Force aรฉrienne belge s-58C ex Sabena.

According to Belgian sources she was lately resprayed in German colours for a film.

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