when an equivelent model is offered elsewhere, does their exist an avionics and missile that matches the quality of those from the US, but comes at a lower price point? surely there are some fine missiles (particularly from Israel or France) that are similar to the capabilities and quality of a US missile and radar but may often be much higher in price, like the MICA..
By: swerve - 31st August 2010 at 15:55
Anybody here remember the EL/M-2052 AESA radar? The specs it was advertised with were mind-blowing. I vividly remember the line about being able to detect upto 64 targets. If it was really as good as it was claimed it’s a great shame no one bought it or developed it further.
The Israelis are still trying to sell it.
By: Sintra - 31st August 2010 at 13:39
Only a few people go the extra mile to integrate non-U.S. weapons on U.S. aircraft. And from the top of my head I can’t come up with anyone but Japan and Israel who integrated a non-OEM radar AAM on a fighter. It’s a pity MICA didn’t go on the EF2k, it seems a very capable real-world AAM (where visual ID is still standard procedure).
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By: Witcha - 23rd August 2010 at 17:34
Anybody here remember the EL/M-2052 AESA radar? The specs it was advertised with were mind-blowing. I vividly remember the line about being able to detect upto 64 targets. If it was really as good as it was claimed it’s a great shame no one bought it or developed it further.
By: wrightwing - 23rd August 2010 at 16:37
But I’m now curious about this apparent Python 6 (Stunner) being developed by Rafael and Raytheon? Speculated to be both an AIM-9x and AMRAAM replacement? Possible 12′ length class missile with a dual-seeker?
Could this potentially be cheaper than the AMRAAM 120D? JDRADM? Could DoD just cancel the JDRADM R&D $$ outright, save the cash and fund this as at least a competitive supplement to the 120D?
Any thoughts?
I guess the important question are how will it compare in both price and performance to the AIM-120D/JDRADM? Can it be used against SAM sites too, like the JDRADM? At this point, it’s a bit premature to say that we should cancel anything, especially seeing a how the -120Ds are entering the inventory.
By: swerve - 23rd August 2010 at 11:56
Aspide & Skyflash were derived from the Sparrow airframe, but weren’t plug and play replacements. They needed to be integrated.
By: Distiller - 23rd August 2010 at 11:45
Sparrow clones don’t count in my book, esp when mounted on U.S. designed/made aircraft.
But on the R530 you’re right.
By: swerve - 23rd August 2010 at 10:51
UK – Skyflash on F-4.
Italy – Aspide on F-104
France – R530 on F-8
I think just about everyone who’s had their own radar-guided AAM & a US fighter at the same time has combined them.
There have been plenty of examples of US radar-guided AAMs integrated on non-US aircraft, & non-US radar-guided AAMs integrated on foreign (also non-US) aircraft. Skyflash, Aspide, AMRAAM . . .
By: Distiller - 23rd August 2010 at 05:00
Only a few people go the extra mile to integrate non-U.S. weapons on U.S. aircraft. And from the top of my head I can’t come up with anyone but Japan and Israel who integrated a non-OEM radar AAM on a fighter. It’s a pity MICA didn’t go on the EF2k, it seems a very capable real-world AAM (where visual ID is still standard procedure).
By: geogen - 23rd August 2010 at 01:12
I’m a proponent of the MICA-IR class capability (at least as it is specified) as a valid just-outside-WVR asset.. It would be an interesting type ordnance to be integrated into, say, the F-22? (a last chance frontal shot before doing a 180 and running?)
But I’m now curious about this apparent Python 6 (Stunner) being developed by Rafael and Raytheon? Speculated to be both an AIM-9x and AMRAAM replacement? Possible 12′ length class missile with a dual-seeker?
Could this potentially be cheaper than the AMRAAM 120D? JDRADM? Could DoD just cancel the JDRADM R&D $$ outright, save the cash and fund this as at least a competitive supplement to the 120D?
Any thoughts?
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