May 29, 2005 at 12:40 pm
It would seem the 767 we all saw leave filton, freshly painted, for Skyservice may already be at the end of its career with the airline.
Check out the damage
By: Airline owner - 30th May 2005 at 11:58
At least it wasn’t too serious.
By: N5552.0W00425.9 - 30th May 2005 at 11:52
Boeing have sent an assessment team to Punta Cana.
Based on previous repairs – LAB 767 and MON 757 at Gibraltar they are estimating anywhere between 6 months and a year to repair.
By: Grey Area - 29th May 2005 at 22:41
I think you’re mistaking this place for PPrune, Spotty M. 🙂
We welcome uninformed conjecture in here. :D:D:D
By: Spotty M Driver - 29th May 2005 at 22:28
Spotter alert on this thread guys. I’ve never heard so much armchair conjecture, sheesh….
There have been many such incidents before, i’ve seen 777’s with damage like this before and much else on other types. Cut the guys a break, do you know all the facts????? or is it conjecture an opinion, thought so….
Spotty M Driver.
By: Flex 35 - 29th May 2005 at 17:33
Thanks for the interesting info Moondance. 🙂
I have heard about the light controls on the B767.
Some interesting diagrams here comparing rotation of the B757/767.



Flex 35
By: Moondance - 29th May 2005 at 16:56
Moondance, how true is it that the 767 is lighterto handle compared with the 757?
It’s very true. I tend to think the 757 flies almost exactly as you imagine it would – the 767, for its size, is remarkably light on the controls. You need to be careful on rotate on the 767, control forces are much lighter than the 757 (and tailstrikes are a very real risk on long bodied jets). The 767 is also very sensitive in roll at take off/approach speeds, due to the two sets of ailerons, which are both operational at low speeds.
By: LBARULES - 29th May 2005 at 16:31
Saw this a few days ago, indeed does look serious.
Hasnt this happened to another 767?
By: Moondance - 29th May 2005 at 16:07
I have seen some pretty bad landings on the B767 though, it musn’t be the easiest of airplanes to land
757/767 have excellent handling, and are far easier to land than an older jet like the 732 (very twitchy and relatively speed unstable). What is more difficult is to do a landing that flatters you ego on a 767. Due to the slightly odd undercarriage geometry, the forward wheels on the bogey hang lower than the rear wheels, so on most landings (mine anyway) the aircraft tends to collapse out of the sky onto the rear wheels when the forward ones hit the ground!
By: by738 - 29th May 2005 at 16:03
I was under the impression it was repairable.
Seems there was a similar incident with a S. American operator and that aircraft was repaired and is back operating.
By: Bmused55 - 29th May 2005 at 15:53
I have seen some pretty bad landings on the B767 though, it musn’t be the easiest of airplanes to land.
Flex 35
Pilots say the exact opposite.
You experiences are probably because a lot of UK based 767s operated into difficult airfield via charter work 😉
By: Flex 35 - 29th May 2005 at 15:22
I have seen some pretty bad landings on the B767 though, it musn’t be the easiest of airplanes to land.
Flex 35
By: bmi-star - 29th May 2005 at 15:19
With the TC on board, that made things even worse for the F/O 😮
By: Grey Area - 29th May 2005 at 14:02
Ooooh – that does look nasty! 😮
By: MANAIRPORTMAD - 29th May 2005 at 12:53
Ouch!
By: Flex 35 - 29th May 2005 at 12:49
First Officer carried out the landing. They are saying he might get fired from the company.
Flex 35