January 15, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Hi all,
found this smal paper after recovering of three Merlin XX engine from Halifax crash site near Kiel, Germany. It looks like as a piece from a british cigarette box (or a piece of a map ? Greenland?)
Maybe someone can confirm this and can show a photo of a original box ?
Regards
Nils
PS. A report of this recovering will be published next time
By: Cees Broere - 16th January 2009 at 16:56
Hi Nils,
So they are going as far as to change the law. If you could make
some good contacts with official recovery teams perhaps you can
work out some kine of co-operation. We have a similar set-up in
The Netherlands and it works really well.
I cannot help you with Merlin schematics but MerlinPeter perhaps
can, but i can help you with all thins Halifax (the nuts and bolts
side that is).
Grüss
Cees
By: Pathfinder - 16th January 2009 at 15:20
Hi Cees,
yes, that´s from the site I have found two years ago the human remain.
It´s a difficult theme, because the authorities in other states handle it different. He in the state “Schleswig-Holstein” the archaeological evidence ( here I´m the specialist for the aviation archaeology) is the only authority who recovered and search for wracks or parts of wracks. No other civil person or organisation have a permission to do that.In the next month we have a new law. People who dig or search for relicts of the WWII and would be to catch, are then previously convicted. This is then a statutory offense…
The bomb disposal team recovered three engines and they told me, the engines looks very well 🙂 Sadly we have during the recover no permission to visit this work, because they found a lot of bombs with different weight.
I´m waiting of a call from bomb disposal team to optain a overview about the condition of the engines…
If I have photos, I publish a report on my website and blog and will let you know then.
Same important is to receive a manual / part catalog for the Merlin XX engine for the dokumentation. I hope someone can help with this manual in digital form, before I must pay a lot of money for this…
Regards
Nils
By: Cees Broere - 16th January 2009 at 10:12
Hi Nils,
Very interesting project you have on your hands. Is that the site where human remains were found as well?
How do you handle this in Germany?
Cheers
Cees
By: GrahamSimons - 16th January 2009 at 08:39
The ‘0’ seems to match in with what would be the 4 degree 50 minute line, but that’s a odd graduation to use on a map. I’m not sure. Anyone got any other ideas?
I’ve doubled checked – it’s likely to be ’50’ – some maps show every 10 minutes of arc. The ’40’ would be off the fragment on the right.
By: Pathfinder - 16th January 2009 at 08:28
You are great 🙂
It´s Greenock in Scotland ! The roads, railway and the little lake are correct !
Thanks for th great help !
What means the “O”, left on the longitude line, could it be the sign for degrees ?
Regards
Nils
By: GrahamSimons - 15th January 2009 at 21:42
The near vertical thin line is almost certainly a longitude line. The thick red line appears to be a road, and the thin horizontal blue lines is how maps were shaded to denote water. The bluey-grey line that is struck through with a short same colour line could well be a railway line (that’s a regular way of showing them) and the thinner, curving almost brown lines could well be contour or ‘height’ lines.
On a long shot, I googled Greenock in Scotland…
the coastline and features appear to match!
I think it shows the coast from Greenock around to Gourock, with the A770 and A78, with the railway lines you can just make out on the google map!
By: Pathfinder - 15th January 2009 at 21:34
Now I´m sure it´s a navigation map, you guys are right !
I have here a old german map of the UK and Ireland and just looking about the “O” (on the middle of the peace and the meridian), so it could be O° or 10°. Or it´s the sign for degree (°)… ?
Regards
Nils
By: John Aeroclub - 15th January 2009 at 20:59
Could it be Greenwich? Map certainly.
John
By: GrahamSimons - 15th January 2009 at 19:53
Looks more like a part of a map to me