SNAFU CAA Permit

Jeez!! Good job there are so many experts on here otherwise TFC and the rest of us wouldnt have a Bl**dy clue would we!!!!!

@ Sycamore; you will already have a permit to fly document issued in respect of the aircraft. It is revalidated annually by the issue of a Certificate of Validity after an inspection. If that C of V is signed, stamped, dated and in the post then it’s good to go.

Edit:- I hope you are reading the Operating Limitations document as well.

If I test fly an aircraft,I will see and read the Permit first,otherwise as said, it is not Legal.

Robert, have another read of my post 8… if a certificate of validity has been issued…. ie, signed, dated and stamped (and in the post), then that aircraft is legal to fly.

So where does it say that you have to have it in your hands ?

If the OP is expecting a first issue of a permit to fly then there are obviously different circumstances to contend with. It will have been flying on a PFRC for the purposes of air testing and with that all done, he’s waiting on the CAA to shuffle the papers.

And.that is why I asked the Pete Kynsey pants question the other day!!!

It will fecking fly when every I is dotted, every t is crossed and everything is fine to do so.

And Bentwingbomber if you can advise us what you intend to have for breakfast and the day of the first flight I will be most greatful.

On a seperate note, after seeing the cr42 at the RAF museam the other day, what is the state of play with the TFC example? I would imagine its a long way down the list but will really look the part on the flightline at Duxford when the time comes.

Snafu will fly with time, weather, test pilot, paperwork and I’m sure many other factors!

We all are chewing at the bit to see her, and many other DX-based restorations fly, and I’m pretty sure that will happen quicker if we’re not pestering the engineers, especially for information which I suspect many don’t even know themselves as its out of their hands!

Er… BWB have you made sure that 8674planes can make it to DX that day? It would be most ungentlemanly of you to arrange such an event without his express say so and if DCW isn’t available please book Pen Pusher or Bomberflight so that 8674planes can “virtually” see the event for himself…

FFS indeed:mad:

Thanks for letting us know.

About Half Ten ok?

Just after Tea Break.

FFS

:rolleyes:

OK great, I’ll book the morning off work and make sure my camera has plenty of film, see you then.

I’ll tell you when it will fly.

When it’s good and ready!

Be patient. Reading through permit applications will tell you nothing.

Bruce

Application Type CAA PERMITRENEWAL

Received Date 29/11/2011

Expected Date of Processing19/12/2011

So it could fly after the 19th december 🙂

Thanks for letting us know.

About Half Ten ok?

Just after Tea Break.

FFS

:rolleyes:

My understanding is that if your previous Permit to Fly is still valid you can still fly. However if this is a new application or the previous permit has expired then you need to have a certificate. How do you know that the “expected processing date” is the actual date on your certificate?

What happens if you have an expected processing date of 30-11-2011 and an expired Permit. Do you go flying today and perhaps have a crash. You may find that your Permit was processed a few days later or there is a paperwork problem and it is not issued.

A bit similar to “the cheque is in the post”

Then you have been flying illegally and your insurance is not valid. Damage something or someone and have all your assets taken from you.

You actually need to get the certificate in your hands before a flight is legal.

Where does it say that? In my experience, if a certificate of validity has been issued in respect of a Permit to Fly, then that aircraft may take to the air.

re;

Is she taxi’ing yet?

Not quite true. If you have an “expected processing date” then you are good to go. At least I was after my C of A renewal.

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1&mode=detail&aircrafttype=hurricane&dataindex=4

check that out………….

You actually need to get the certificate in your hands before a flight is legal.

As far as I know it didn’t have a permit anyway.

Has the present permit expired because you can fly if the certificate of Validity is still in date.