So exciting

Originally posted by R.weaver

One may not be grown up when they fly with a big grin on their face but how does your face change in an engine failure, I remember coming in on final when I came in much to slow, my face changed suddenly and so did my hand on the throttle?
Then again being confident is what this game is all about, and what is your $125,000 aircraft, do you want to share it? Have a good christmas all.
😉

Regards

R.weaver

Safe legal flying

Well I deal with engine failures every 6 weeks in the sim. All in a days work.

The $125 Million aircraft is a B747-400.

😀

I dont find it exciting I just did not know if it was legal or not, I know better now I know the views on it and more importantly the rules.

One may not be grown up when they fly with a big grin on their face but how does your face change in an engine failure, I remember coming in on final when I came in much to slow, my face changed suddenly and so did my hand on the throttle?
Then again being confident is what this game is all about, and what is your $125,000 aircraft, do you want to share it? Have a good christmas all.
😉

Regards

R.weaver

Safe legal flying

The main problem I have is that he finds it ‘exciting’ rather than reprehensible that somebody is allegedly flying for hire and reward illegally.

Bad attitude. 😡

Moggy

Originally posted by R.weaver
. And I think any person who has flown a £100,000 aircraft solo is rather grown up.

Christ, I fly a $125,000,000 aircraft and I haven’t grown up yet.:D 😀 😀

Robert, we have passed a few PM’s now and I feel I can perhaps shed a bit of light that may smooth the waters here but I’ll need you to accept me being brutally frank too.

Gents, the PM’s that I have shared with Robert show that he is in reality quite consciensus and wanting to do things correctly. Regrettably his choice of terminology is sometimes unfortunate in a way that he doesn’t necessarily realise but I believe he means no malice. Let me give an example. In a recent PM Robert said to me “remember, never get complacent about flying for the big boys, it’s better than sitting in an office all day on £10p.h”. Robert doesn’t obviously think that this might be a bit of a wierd thing to say to someone with thousands more hours of experience than he has and I did have to massively bite my tongue when responding but it is purely down to inattention to political correctness that goes on in english language taught today.

Robert, please be a little more aware of how people directly interpret the words you use and if he does so, then I ask everyone else to give him a chance.

Merry Christmas one and all
wys

I know it does not all make sence does it my freind, I suppose it might of just been a lorry load I just guess it was light stuff, I dont know all the details, just stuff that has gone around.

Maybe it was a sports cat load,heeeeeeeee 🙂

Regards

R.weaver

Safe legal flying

Re: So exciting

[News of a gentleman operating out of Fenland who owns and operates a pa-34 who holds a PPL has been doing aerial freight for money, your first thought is norty norty but he has been very clever and what he is doing is ok, so I was told by my freindly helicopter cfi who I done a work placement with.

He flies the cargo from place to place and he does not charge for the flight so yes he pays for it himself, he charges for all ground handling fees and movements, so when the cargo has to go from airfield to factory by lorry

If he can fit a lorryload of anything into a PA-34 he would be able to upload enough just enough fuel to taxi the thing to the runway before refuelling for the backtrack !!!!!!!!

I think you will find that Steve is an intelligent , knowledgeable member of this (and other ) Forums , he has plenty friends and few (if any) critics . Steve is not a student pilot as such he is requalifying from a previous lapsed licence . Any advice he gives in any way shape or form should be listened to – he’s been there bought the T-shirt and done it .
As for writing to the CAA , I don’t think you would have to bother , I’m pretty sure there are one or two people from the CAA around here somewhere , there are definately a few from the PFA around ( unfortunately ).

Originally posted by SteveYoung
Not entirely sure I owe you one.

You appear to be showing a great deal of naivety and immaturity by constantly looking for ways to buck the system. In addition to the above, may I refer you to this thread:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18661

where you seem to be looking for ways of making money out of aviation without being legally licenced to do so? Or perhaps this thread:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18386

where, again, you seem to be looking for ways of making money out of aviation without being legally licenced to do so?

You’ve already stated that you’ve done your first solo, therefore, if your flying school have anything about them, they will have ensured that you have at least taken and passed the Air Law exam before sending you solo.

Therefore YOU KNOW THE RULES. Pleading ignorance via the assertion that “I’m just a student pilot” doesn’t really cut the mustard does it?

I’m also a student pilot, and I also have aspirations within aviation, but unlike you, I’m not looking for a loophole, I’m not prepared to act illegally and jeopardise my chances of EVER being able to fly, and I certainly don’t feel that I need to issue an apology for maintaining that stance.

Grow up.

You seam to have a lot about you for a student pilot Steve, I have told you I am going for a CPL and I have told you that that’s the way at which im going, Im not trying to cut any loopholes, so this is how im spreading the mustard for you:

1) Withdraw your knife and stop being so bitter in a room that is for G.A and not silly little arguements.

2) As a student pilot you should get over yourself, hence the word student.

IM not trying to cause a stir here but this Is where the line must be drawn, I have been moderators on other online pilot forums and you would be surprised at how easily a silly little thing can start messing up a forum.

Let’s both just leave it at that Steve, or if you cant take the heat don’t reply to any of my messages. And I think any person who has flown a £100,000 aircraft solo is rather grown up. I know the rules and im not going to mess up by breaking them.

Think before you type my freind for your words will forever dictate your future and your opposers opinions will form.

Kind regards

R.weaver

Safe legal flying

Well said Steve. I have to agree with you. Sometimes I find it hard to believe how naive some people can be.

Originally posted by R.weaver
An apology please: (Steve young)

Not entirely sure I owe you one.

You appear to be showing a great deal of naivety and immaturity by constantly looking for ways to buck the system. In addition to the above, may I refer you to this thread:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18661

where you seem to be looking for ways of making money out of aviation without being legally licenced to do so? Or perhaps this thread:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18386

where, again, you seem to be looking for ways of making money out of aviation without being legally licenced to do so?

You’ve already stated that you’ve done your first solo, therefore, if your flying school have anything about them, they will have ensured that you have at least taken and passed the Air Law exam before sending you solo.

Therefore YOU KNOW THE RULES. Pleading ignorance via the assertion that “I’m just a student pilot” doesn’t really cut the mustard does it?

I’m also a student pilot, and I also have aspirations within aviation, but unlike you, I’m not looking for a loophole, I’m not prepared to act illegally and jeopardise my chances of EVER being able to fly, and I certainly don’t feel that I need to issue an apology for maintaining that stance.

Grow up.

Take a look at the FAA licence and its medical requirements. The Only thing I would say about this option is that you will find that there are an awful lot of people with this rating (even in the UK) and very few jobs available.

Originally posted by wysiwyg
Robert, I fully admire your keenness but in 10 minutes in aviation you are not going to legally beat a system whose roots are 100 years and 1 day old!

As Steve quite rightly says, you are not the first person to look for a loophole, everyone has. Even if you were to find a legal loophole (which you won’t) it’ll be closed faster than your sphincter when the boys in blue descend on the airfield!

Commercial flying isn’t just about duty of care for your passengers but also duty of care for all the public you fly your aeroplane over. For this, the authorities require (amongst other things) stereo vision and I have to say they are quite correct. There are enough visual illusions (particularly at night) to confuse the fully sighted let alone mono vision. If you really want to make a legitimate (if low paid) living from aviation do some research into the medical requirements for becoming a professional microlight or gliding instructor. You may find what you are looking for there.

All the best
Ian (wys)

Thanks for the e-mail, you are very kind replying at such short notice, although I was just saying I dont want to do it im just saying about it, my goal is a FAA CPL, I want to be the best and fly commerical without doing ilegal things, I want to fly not get shot by the CAA

I was not looking at doing it myself I was just saying that a person has been doing it and who how he has been doing it? Im going commercial one day that is my goal, I do not have any stupid plans like that, so why do you make these insults and stuff like that at me? Im just a studnet pilot and im trying to flind out some info, if I was looking at doing it I would say and anyway if I was going to do it I would have a CPL. So send that to the CAA if you like, I obay the rules!

An apology please: (Steve young)

Regards

R.weaver

safe -LEGAL- flying

Hence legal my freind!

Im not being rude and I dont want upset I was just saying 🙂

Robert, I fully admire your keenness but in 10 minutes in aviation you are not going to legally beat a system whose roots are 100 years and 1 day old!

As Steve quite rightly says, you are not the first person to look for a loophole, everyone has. Even if you were to find a legal loophole (which you won’t) it’ll be closed faster than your sphincter when the boys in blue descend on the airfield!

Commercial flying isn’t just about duty of care for your passengers but also duty of care for all the public you fly your aeroplane over. For this, the authorities require (amongst other things) stereo vision and I have to say they are quite correct. There are enough visual illusions (particularly at night) to confuse the fully sighted let alone mono vision. If you really want to make a legitimate (if low paid) living from aviation do some research into the medical requirements for becoming a professional microlight or gliding instructor. You may find what you are looking for there.

All the best
Ian (wys)

Understand one thing please Mr Weaver.

It is illegal for Private Pilots Licence holders to fly for hire or reward. As has been pointed out time and again.

Far more intelligent and devious minds than yours have undoubtedly explored the possibilities and failed. What makes you think you can succeed where they failed?

And one other thing, one only has to look back through previous postings you’ve made to establish your name and your flight school. If I were employed by the CAA, I for one would be taking a very dim view of your ‘plans’, and would probably refuse to grant you a PPL in the first place on the grounds that you are likely to use it illegally.

Want to have a little think about that and bring yourself back into the real world?