So much for "A land fit for heroes"

Parveen Brown, who is responsible for continuing healthcare funding at NHS Devon, said every family had the right of appeal and a further discussion had taken place with the family.

I.e : You can appeal all you like, we are still going to screw you over.

This sort of treatment of retired servicemen/women is pretty common throughout the world, not just WW2 servicepersonal.
There is no “money” to be made wasting time and effort on “old” people, nor political points to be scored helping one “old man”.

Its a sad fact.
Im not a great believer in war at all, but these people deserve all the help and support we can give them since it is ultimately our fault for allowing wars to develop…

One hopes that the so called public servents who keep “reviewing” peoples cases will one day be an old frail person who also gets screwed over in their old age!

Parveen Brown, who is responsible for continuing healthcare funding at NHS Devon, said every family had the right of appeal and a further discussion had taken place with the family.

I.e : You can appeal all you like, we are still going to screw you over.

This sort of treatment of retired servicemen/women is pretty common throughout the world, not just WW2 servicepersonal.
There is no “money” to be made wasting time and effort on “old” people, nor political points to be scored helping one “old man”.

Its a sad fact.
Im not a great believer in war at all, but these people deserve all the help and support we can give them since it is ultimately our fault for allowing wars to develop…

One hopes that the so called public servents who keep “reviewing” peoples cases will one day be an old frail person who also gets screwed over in their old age!

What a complete and utter disgrace when you think of all the cash wasted by Government and Local authorities, I know this for a fact as I worked for one for 25 years. It never failed to amaze me at the dumb waste of Tax payer’s cash that happened.
Not to mention MPs expenses and Greedy Bankers it’s beyond comprehension that this War Hero who helped preserve this Country’s way of life so these fat cats and Politions could bleed it dry and over populate it is left to fend for himself.
The thin hope that someday it will happen to them is unlikely, hangings to good for them.:mad:

If he was an extremist or illegal immigrant able to exploit “human rights” he would get it ok.Absolutely disgusting.

If he was an extremist or illegal immigrant able to exploit “human rights” he would get it ok.Absolutely disgusting.

Quite right we must not violate their Human rights must we, lets give them a 300K House and enought money to live on while they slag off our culture, and tell our troops they are murderers what the hell has happened to this Country?

Why is there no mention of the British legion of the RAFA?
They support veterans exactly like this and there may not be any need for all this rubbish in the press.

Graham Adlam Quote:
Originally Posted by trumper
If he was an extremist or illegal immigrant able to exploit “human rights” he would get it ok.Absolutely disgusting.

Quite right we must not violate their Human rights must we, lets give them a 300K House and enought money to live on while they slag off our culture, and tell our troops they are murderers what the hell has happened to this Country?

Its also sad to see idiotic comments such as those!
How about sticking to the topic at hand… ??
You all very quickly get on the racial bandwagon.
Yet you two clowns cant see that it YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT who has ruined your country for the fat rich corporations.

Its the same here where everyone moans about “ethnic” people. Yet no one has the balls to stand up and speak up when their own government screws them over. Migrants arent taking away your rights or gettin more tax payer money then what a local gets (another internet falsehood), its our own “elected” officials who are wasting billions every year on useless projects or handing out bail out money to banks and corporations… gee, no whinging about that is there?

Quite right we must not violate their Human rights must we, lets give them a 300K House and enought money to live on while they slag off our culture, and tell our troops they are murderers what the hell has happened to this Country?

My dear old father, and I suspect most other war vets., would turn in their graves if they knew what this country had degenerated into. A country with no industry, no culture, a dumping ground for the rest of the world, lead by a spineless government that’s more intent on looking after non-patriots and their own pockets!:mad:

Parveen Brown, who is responsible for continuing healthcare funding at NHS Devon, said every family had the right of appeal and a further discussion had taken place with the family.

I.e : You can appeal all you like, we are still going to screw you over.

This sort of treatment of retired servicemen/women is pretty common throughout the world, not just WW2 servicepersonal.
There is no “money” to be made wasting time and effort on “old” people, nor political points to be scored helping one “old man”.

Its a sad fact.
Im not a great believer in war at all, but these people deserve all the help and support we can give them since it is ultimately our fault for allowing wars to develop…

One hopes that the so called public servents who keep “reviewing” peoples cases will one day be an old frail person who also gets screwed over in their old age!

Not quite the whole world, my friends father was a Lancaster crewmember and the only englishman in a Canadian crew [ the same crew in the book ‘Lancaster down’] She met some crew members years later and they all remarked how much better the Canadians looked after their ex servicmen.
In the UK its all about power, if you are an overpaid official in the council/government or an overpaid banker the worlds your oyster and you can screw over anybody you like, and their proud of it.

Graham

In my experience much of central and local government is a disgrace. Our taxes are wasted, by being ineptly managed and wastefully spent. The employees are overpaid for the work they do and look forward to a nice copper bottomed pension when they retire.

Before the anguished cries of protest, yes, there are good apples amongst the bad but you struggle to find them.

Why is there no mention of the British legion or the RAFA?

Good point.

Having cared for, and finally buried a parent with dementia, I will observe that the only saving grace is that Mr Mejor may not be much aware of the contoversial circumstances of his accomodation.

The Nursing Home is very likely to be private (i.e profit making ) which goes some way to explain, though not justify, such a high weekly tariff.

The NHS Trust has a very tough job, and the money really is hard to find, but old soldiers, especially from WW2, deserve all we can give them.

The situation appears to be that the Local Authority are saying that the person does not “Need” care provided, so if the family wishes him to receive care they will need to pay for it. It all comes down to a medical assessment and I am not qualified to make judgement particularly on a newspaper report as we cannot be really aware of the full circumstances.
From my own parents experience the local authority cannot force the sale of a house to provide care if a wife or husband stays in the house and in some cases if a carer or child stays in the house. As he is a Veteran I agree that this is the type of situation that the RBL or RAFA should be providing some guidance or help. He is regrettably, being treated no better or worse than any other old person of any race colour or creed, in the same circumstances.
We will all hopefully get old and we can look forward to any inheritance (house) being sold to fund our care unless we plan well ahead. Those who have no assets get looked after. so sell up your houses and spend the money while you can. However you may wish to visit Local Authority homes to see what conditions you may be living in.

All the above does not detract from the case being discussed which I feel appears to be a disgrace.

Graham Adlam Quote:
Originally Posted by trumper
If he was an extremist or illegal immigrant able to exploit “human rights” he would get it ok.Absolutely disgusting.

Quite right we must not violate their Human rights must we, lets give them a 300K House and enought money to live on while they slag off our culture, and tell our troops they are murderers what the hell has happened to this Country?

Its also sad to see idiotic comments such as those!
How about sticking to the topic at hand… ??
You all very quickly get on the racial bandwagon.
Yet you two clowns cant see that it YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT who has ruined your country for the fat rich corporations.

Its the same here where everyone moans about “ethnic” people. Yet no one has the balls to stand up and speak up when their own government screws them over. Migrants arent taking away your rights or gettin more tax payer money then what a local gets (another internet falsehood), its our own “elected” officials who are wasting billions every year on useless projects or handing out bail out money to banks and corporations… gee, no whinging about that is there?

First and foremost THANK YOU for your kind words ,a clown,well ive been called worse but i don’t know you so i won’t bend down to your level and insult you.
I notice you live in Australia,this is the place where you won’t allow the dregs of the world enter unlike this country so please don’t tell me what i can say or can’t in my own country. We are being taken over by militants and immigrants, – – if you like them you take them in :mad:Oh of course you won’t.
As for the balls to stand up and say something,well you can vote over here for
Party A which will screw you,Party B which will screw you or party C which will screw you,.
As for the topic at hand – – THIS IS THE TOPIC AT HAND ,someone who deserves care won’t get it,someone who deserves to be banned and deported along with many others will cry “human rights” and get what they want.So stay in Australia and keep your views to yourself until you move here and see what’s happening here.:mad:

trumper, with all due respect are you really insinuating that this is a race issue and by extension that he might be being moved to make room for Mr. Patel?

It’s about need. It’s about re-assessment of his medical condition and the level of care he now needs. We are not privvy to that information, nor should we be. If his condition is now such that he no longer needs that level of care, as is the implication, then wouldn’t that be a good thing? Surely, you wouldn’t want anyone else to be denied that level of care because the funds are being used to maintain someone who no longer needs that level of care?

Has Mr. Mejor been harshly treated? He has been granted a second assessment so surely the right thing would be to await the outcome of that first.

Regards,

kev35

:)Kev it is NOT a race issue,i don’t care where people are from or what colour or religion they are as long as they pay their way and obey our laws and ways of life.
My point is that we have had militants and others who contribute nothing,condemn everything we do or say and yet seem to be looked after.
I work with foreigners and non original domiciles and the majority are good,BUT we seem not to be allowed to take action against those that have no interest or contribute.

trumper.

I quite agree, but surely that is an argument for another thread. This is about the case of Mr. Mejor. As far as I can see he has been treated according to need. If his condition had worsened and he required and received £1400’s worth of care every week nothing would be said.

Regards,

kev35

🙂 Kev ,by the same token it makes it irrelevant that he was a Spitfire pilot,he served his country when they needed him and now he needs them.
He may as well be Joe Bloggs,born after the war and this thread /story would never have made the forum.:)
Whatever the arguments i hope he gets looked after and the treatment he deserves.:)I suspect now this news has made the press the health authority will climb down,they normally do if it involves bad press,they will just get it back from a less high profile situation.

I think the main Item of contention is the fact that that he owns a property , worth some money , and this puts him outside of a lot of Benefits , If he was penniless , then I feel that the finances of his care would be looked after by the State ,

:confused: May i ask what happened to the wife/mother that was living there?
“She added that she feared she would now be forced to sell her parents home, where her 94-year-old mother Cecile wanted to stay for the rest of her life. “
Surely moving someone out and into somewhere else and then having to pay for 2 lots of care and housing isn’t viable and cost effective either.
Property is only worth what it can be sold for,if it can be sold.

Graham Adlam Quote:
Originally Posted by trumper
If he was an extremist or illegal immigrant able to exploit “human rights” he would get it ok.Absolutely disgusting.

Quite right we must not violate their Human rights must we, lets give them a 300K House and enought money to live on while they slag off our culture, and tell our troops they are murderers what the hell has happened to this Country?

Its also sad to see idiotic comments such as those!
How about sticking to the topic at hand… ??
You all very quickly get on the racial bandwagon.
Yet you two clowns cant see that it YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT who has ruined your country for the fat rich corporations.

Its the same here where everyone moans about “ethnic” people. Yet no one has the balls to stand up and speak up when their own government screws them over. Migrants arent taking away your rights or gettin more tax payer money then what a local gets (another internet falsehood), its our own “elected” officials who are wasting billions every year on useless projects or handing out bail out money to banks and corporations… gee, no whinging about that is there?

Its quite clear you dont read the news papers or watch the news. I travel all over the Country and its quite clear to me what happening. I am not a racist, nor was any ethnic subject mentioned, The words used were extremists and illegal imagrants, that could be any ethnic group, white black or otherwise.
Clearly you miss the point that while real Heros who risked their life for this Country have to PAY while others get free hand outs.
If you read my post I also mentioned our Goverment particularly their expence claims which have been big news lately.
If you think that view makes me an idiot then that makes rather allot of fed up people in this Country Idiots to.
Just noticed you are Australian so what the hell would you know about it? ,like trumper said you dont let anyone in your Country so mind your own business.