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So Much for love with-in the EU

Hi All,

Just got done reading this gem from BBC, looks like the French and Germans are trying to pick a fight with Brits over alot of stuff.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4090274.stm

The way I read it and mind you I’m a Yank I think it might be time for the almighty EU to fad into history and let Countrys be Countrys again. Read what the German Chanceller said if I was a Citz. of a EU Country I would have told Her Idiot to get stuffed.

As alot of you have said before it seems France and German want the EU to work for them and screw the rest of the EU.

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By: Moggy C - 18th June 2005 at 02:21

if by “you” you meant “British”, then please keep this an EU problem, no need to deflect the issue here like what the French is trying to do. :rolleyes: If you’re simply addressing crazy on the “you” part…i’ll stay out of it.

I’m sorry. I realise it is difficult coping with a discussion in a foreign language, but since the question was directed at Crazymainer the word ‘you’ almost certainly refers to a citizen of the state on Maine.

Tricky stuff, I know.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 18th June 2005 at 02:14

And why, please explain, exactly, do you want to be part of the great United States of America?

Moggy

if by “you” you meant “British”, then please keep this an EU problem, no need to deflect the issue here like what the French is trying to do. :rolleyes: If you’re simply addressing crazy on the “you” part…i’ll stay out of it.

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By: Moggy C - 18th June 2005 at 01:44

… but you can’t no wonder the most UK folks don’t want to be part of the great United States of Europe :diablo: :p

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And why, please explain, exactly, do you want to be part of the great United States of America?

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By: crazymainer - 18th June 2005 at 01:35

Now Grey Area,

Lets get this right I’m the right-Wing Card carring Neo-Cons. 😀

I see the love fest is getting rather heated now, so the French and Germ,ans want the UK to back off of their Refund Demands now thats interesting nothing like the French saying hey we subsidize are guys but you can’t no wonder the most UK folks don’t want to be part of the great United States of Europe :diablo: :p

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By: Grey Area - 17th June 2005 at 19:48

I can only presume that you are mistaking me for someone else, Mr Boyle.

Someone who actually cares what you think of them……… :diablo:

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By: J Boyle - 17th June 2005 at 03:46

I find it quite ironic that some of our more right-wing colleagues (I do hope that hasn’t offended Mr Boyle’s newly-delicate sensibilities :rolleyes: )

I see you haven’t lost your unmistakable form…. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
There you go again, name calling anyone who you don’t agree with.

As I’ve repeatedly told you, you nothing of my politics.

Your attempt sarcasm is as thin as your manners. :diablo: :diablo:

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By: PhantomII - 17th June 2005 at 02:59

Just anti-Europe crap.

Change the word Europe to America, and welcome to what I have to put up with every other day on this forum.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 17th June 2005 at 01:40

😀

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By: Grey Area - 15th June 2005 at 07:44

“Ill-informed xenophobes…”…GA, you’re name calling again!

Ah, but only ill-informed xenophobes would take offence surely? And they deserve it. 😀

Nice to see someone standing up for them, all the same. :diablo:

I find it quite ironic that some of our more right-wing colleagues (I do hope that hasn’t offended Mr Boyle’s newly-delicate sensibilities :rolleyes: ) are suddenly treating The BBC – that arch-pinko organ of liberal tree huggers, Saddam-lovers and dolphin botherers everywhere – as a serious and authoritative source of news and comment.

No, in fact I find it riotously amusing. :D:D:D

Edited to add: And a very good morning to you, Crazymainer. 😀

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By: crazymainer - 15th June 2005 at 04:24

And then I get a warning not to insult anymore. This thread should be closed as well. I find “Herr Idiot” quite insulting as well actually. This thread is clearly provocative, there’s no context, reason behind posting it, except from starting a flame war. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: However, I get the warning :confused: :confused: makes no sence. Just anti-Europe crap. Ohh well, CM got the PM …

Ben,

Yes I got the pm and I will not respond 😡 How is this Anti-Europe did you really read the story. You might want to go back and re-read it there are some real interesting comments being made by the French and German Politions.

Grey Area I should expect sucj a nice comment good morning to you 😮

Moggy you should know that yes Maine is part of the USA but we are the most Norhtern State in the lower 48s which makes us one of the most independent States in the Union all you have to do is look at some of the laws we have in-acted.

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By: J Boyle - 15th June 2005 at 04:13

“Ill-informed xenophobes…”…GA, you’re name calling again! :rolleyes:

From talking to my UK friends it’s clear that many (if not most) in the UK are wary of the EU. The UK government and public want to be part of a strong Europe but don’t want to give up too much sovereignty.

*A farmer friend in Kent (well educated, fairly liberal, and very well travelled, hardly a xenophobe) has nothing good to say about the EU agriculture programs and is sure France gives “illegal” incentives to its farmers.
*A lot of posters on this site are upset about the EU insurance rules that are raising warbird insurance rates. I dare say the average bloke would rather have the rules that affect him made in London rather than Brussels.
There is also concern about immigration….again, not many want open borders with countries that have a lot of people looking to move.
*France wants to be a (perhaps THE) major player in the EU, but still looks after its own interests first…withness deciding not to be a part of the Eurofighter program, instead wanting to develop its own fighter.
*The UK hasn’t adopted the Euro, and if for no other reason than tradition and pride, probably won’t in our lifetimes.

Looks to me like it’s time to “fish or cut bait”…in other words, decide which side of the fence you want to be on…because you can’t straddle it forever (at least not with out a sore a**).

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By: Grey Area - 14th June 2005 at 20:18

No, Minidoh.

Just the ill-informed xenophobes. 😀

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By: MINIDOH - 14th June 2005 at 20:13

Anti-Europe crap eh? I agree with what he has said, and unfortunately for the few pro EU Brits, the majority of Britain agrees with what he has said.
As for your post Grey Area, “another ill-informed xenophobic rant” is a bit rich isn’t it?
Considering that the majority of Britain aren’t pro EU does that mean that we are all
“ill-informed xenophobes”?

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By: Ben. - 14th June 2005 at 17:55

And then I get a warning not to insult anymore. This thread should be closed as well. I find “Herr Idiot” quite insulting as well actually. This thread is clearly provocative, there’s no context, reason behind posting it, except from starting a flame war. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: However, I get the warning :confused: :confused: makes no sence. Just anti-Europe crap. Ohh well, CM got the PM …

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By: Moggy C - 14th June 2005 at 16:59

I’m no great lover of the EU, and the current tactic of using the ‘Thatcher’ rebate to draw attention away from the referendum result in France is a bit transparent.

However at least we are independent and only loosely part of ‘United Europe’ – unlike Maine which is solidly locked into the American Union and has Bush as its leader :p

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By: Grey Area - 14th June 2005 at 16:30

..the additional phrase “only when it suits them” should be added…

To be honest you could say that of just about any nation in the EU – and a few beyond.

And I do include the UK in this 🙂

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By: paulc - 14th June 2005 at 15:00

The comment made by Herr Schroeder that “germany has a habit of sticking to agreements etc” is a bit rich – the additional phrase “only when it suits them” should be added – particularly with regard to the stability pact

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By: Grey Area - 14th June 2005 at 14:46

Another day, another ill-informed xenophobic rant.

Hey ho…… :rolleyes:

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