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so what is a Poffler then ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vickers-VC10-Pofflers-Unbuilt-Variants/dp/0956195105/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1

am guessing some kind of slang for electronic version but anybody know anything more ?

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By: alertken - 21st April 2009 at 13:48

24/10/56: BOAC order for 15 707-420, subject to “early replacement” by a UK type. Vickers, bruised by deletion of VC7, discusses 707 licence.
4/4/57: Defence White Paper. Confirmation of a Mk.2 Victor/Vulcan Force with stand-off bombs (Sandys bought much more than he chopped).
5/57: Order for BOAC, 35 (Standard) VC10. Rejected Avro/DH/HP schemes had cluttered/low wings. 107 Valiants completed 27/8/57: a successful production programme.
57/59 UK tries and fails to make Blue Steel, or any other ASM, work, due in part to heavy UK thermonuclear warhead.
1/59: Joint RAF/USAF Requirement for an ALBM, won 6/59 by (to be) Douglas Skybolt;
3/60: 10 Super VC10s added to BOAC’s Standard order, despite brochure attraction of JT3D-3B/707-320B, to be bought by every BOAC competitor not taking JT3D-7 DC-8/50.
6/6/60: UK buys 144 Skybolts.
60/61: Size and Shape of Bomber Command evolves; Phase 6 Vulcan and Mk.3 Victor schemes lapse. Solo-UK BAC X-12 ASM, Skybolt insurance, lapses 8/61. Blue Steel confined to 3 Sqds. Vulcan 2, and 2 Sqdns. Victor 2. BOAC’s order changes to 12 Standard and 30 Super VC10.
12/62: US chops Skybolt; RN SSBN Deterrent; Bomber Command to bridge just to 1968.
1963: Announcement of HI-LO-HI, not HI-HI-HI Bomber Command sortie profile. Delete HI-release ASMs.
1964: BOAC is tasked to consume less of our money. The first 2 707-320C are ordered; Chairman noisily tries to cancel Super VC10 due for April,1965…as he now realises he is expected actually to take delivery of them. Takes 17 with “compensation”, and adds many 707-320C.

(If I were conspiratorially-disposed, heavy, so clearly uneconomic VC10 was a Q-ship, military, disguised civil. Screwed not by Uncle Sam Boeing, but by Guideline SAM).

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By: PMN1 - 20th April 2009 at 22:03

You sound as if you know what you are talking about !!;) I’m guessing you like VC-10’s !?

I’ll take your recomendation and add it to my “wish list” for the Mrs to see.

ALBM ??? have to say I’m very curious!

Up to 8 Skybolts or 6 Bristol X12 or 4 Avro Z.89 missiles on underwing hardpoints or in the case of the Multi-Role VC-10 64 x 1,000lb bombs in 8 external cocoons each carrying 8 x 1,000lb bombs or in the case of the bomber version of the Modular VC-10 – 18 X 1,000lb bombs internally and 32 x 1,000lb bombs externally on 8 underwing pylons or with the air-to-air version of Modular VC-10 up to 18 long range air-to-air missiles on underwing pylons.

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By: Hot_Charlie - 20th April 2009 at 20:47

It’s an ALBM carrier version of the VC10. For more info I would recommend getting yourself a copy, the author did a great job on it and it describes a lot of interesting variants that not many people know about.

Get one here: Vickers VC10: AEW, Pofflers and Other Unbuilt Variants: Project Tech Profile

Finally in stock at Amazon then.:) If you want to save on the postage you can get it direct from Chris Gibson himself for £8.95 + £1.00P&P as opposed to Amazon’s £2.75P&P from here

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By: BSG-75 - 20th April 2009 at 20:38

You sound as if you know what you are talking about !!;) I’m guessing you like VC-10’s !?

I’ll take your recomendation and add it to my “wish list” for the Mrs to see.

ALBM ??? have to say I’m very curious!

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By: Archer - 20th April 2009 at 19:56

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vickers-VC10-Pofflers-Unbuilt-Variants/dp/0956195105/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1

am guessing some kind of slang for electronic version but anybody know anything more ?

It’s an ALBM carrier version of the VC10. For more info I would recommend getting yourself a copy, the author did a great job on it and it describes a lot of interesting variants that not many people know about.

Get one here: Vickers VC10: AEW, Pofflers and Other Unbuilt Variants: Project Tech Profile

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By: BSG-75 - 20th April 2009 at 17:15

I saw that – thanks, but it doesn’t answer what the term means 🙁

interesting notion though to research a book about the VC-10 like that, I’m guessing the term relates to ELINT or something…..

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By: Zebedee - 19th April 2009 at 21:16

There’s a good thread about the book over at Secret Projects…

Click Here…

The author, Chris Gibson, was the guy on the oil rig who saw something that may or may not have been Aurora…

😀

Zeb

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