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Some Hispano Buchon/Bf109 images

Had a browse of Airliners.net for some new photos, and found a couple of Buchon shots.

Anyone know which aircraft these are? Or have any more info on them?

The blurb says: “At Earl Reinert’s Victory Air Museum, One of five HA-1112 at the Museum, all had been used in the film “Battle of Britain””

I’ve never heard of “Earl Reinert’s Victory Air Museum” before :confused:

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By: John C - 2nd September 2004 at 08:56

Ooh ‘eck, don’t go there…! Can? Worms? Open?

I’ll try and summarise while upsetting as few people as possible – not an easy thing to do when talking about Black Six. Restored over 19 years by Russ Snadden and many others, flown for a few years always on the understanding that she would eventually be retired to the RAF Museum

I followed the story up to about 1995 and then drifted away from the warbird scene due to career and marital issues. Personally I considered her one of the most important flying warbirds in the country… Would someone care to let me have a look at the can of worms (via PM if it’s that contentious)?

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By: Chad Veich - 2nd September 2004 at 01:35

I am sure one of the P-47 experts on the forum will recognise the aircraft. The poor writing on the reverse of the prints says:- NX4477N – Ser 227385 by my best interpretation.
Mark

I’m certainly no expert but, if memory serves, this aircraft is now immaculately restored and with the Yankee Air Force museum at Chino.

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By: Puukka - 1st September 2004 at 23:06

Well, it had itΒ΄s longer tailwheel leg to improve ground handling (better sight,…).
That idea came quite late :confused:
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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st September 2004 at 22:58

Cheers Mike, I didn’t know that. Any idea why G-10’s had an extended leg?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 1st September 2004 at 22:25

So why was Black 6 finally grounded? I know she was in at least one accident (ending up inverted at Duxford) and there was always a limited agreed flying time after which the MoD reclaimed her for an ornament. What were her final days as a living machine?

Ooh ‘eck, don’t go there…! Can? Worms? Open? πŸ˜‰

I’ll try and summarise while upsetting as few people as possible – not an easy thing to do when talking about Black Six. Restored over 19 years by Russ Snadden and many others, flown for a few years always on the understanding that she would eventually be retired to the RAF Museum, suffered an accident (thankfully without injury) on her final flight (which was already planned to be her last outing anyway), was re-built by the same team to a very high standard, and now resides in the Milestones building at Hendon.

Meanwhile… that photo of Black Six and the Hans Dittes machine together has reminded me of something that’s always bugged me – why is D-HDME’s tailwheel on such a long leg…?

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By: snakeman - 1st September 2004 at 21:12

Thanx Mike J πŸ™‚

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By: John C - 1st September 2004 at 20:52

So why was Black 6 finally grounded? I know she was in at least one accident (ending up inverted at Duxford) and there was always a limited agreed flying time after which the MoD reclaimed her for an ornament. What were her final days as a living machine?

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By: snakeman - 1st September 2004 at 20:39

North Weald 1995 can any one id them….I thought one belonged to OFMC but I think I’m wrong. :confused:…second thougths one is Black 6 isn’t that is now in Hendon ?

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By: Mark12 - 1st September 2004 at 18:13

Thanks Mike,

I see now.

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By: Mark12 - 1st September 2004 at 17:57

Identity is 42-27385 / NX4477N

That is different to the serial on the ‘Airliners’ site. πŸ™

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By: Mark12 - 1st September 2004 at 17:36

Earl Reinert – who he?

Here is a shot that Earl sent to me in 1969 to mark the 25th anniversary of D-Day at his Victory Air Museum at Mundelein, Illinois.

The ex P-47 pilots are L-R, 0’Toole 403 FG, Kensinki 78 FG, Dobrick 36 FG & Ross 371 FG.

I am sure one of the P-47 experts on the forum will recognise the aircraft. The poor writing on the reverse of the prints says:- NX4477N – Ser 227385 by my best interpretation.

Earl was an early pioneer of the Warbird movement and had several Buchons, non flying as I recall, after the BoB film and at that time he was also storing two Mk XIV Spitfires for local owners.

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 1st September 2004 at 13:08

the other one is

C.4K-131 OO-MAF

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By: Swiss Mustangs - 1st September 2004 at 13:03

one of them is C.4K-135 D-FMBB

more to follow
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By: oscar duck - 1st September 2004 at 12:49

A-26/B-25/F4F/plus Buchons…where/when???

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