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Some really good news!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/8469850.stm

That’s a little more like justice.

Now when is the scrote going to be banged-up?

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By: PMN - 22nd January 2010 at 23:44

Mr Kemp, who was treated by paramedics, suffered a severely bruised face, eyes and head, as well as cuts and bruises on his legs.

Good. Hopefully it’ll teach him not to try it again!

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By: old shape - 22nd January 2010 at 23:38

Tony Martin did his best to correct that failing amongst the local pikey kids and got chucked into prison for his pains.

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The thing that let TM down was that he was bragging in the pub that “If they tried it again I’ll have my gun ready”
Oops.

As for revenge,
I have always said that if anybody kills any of my loved ones, they will die at my hand, I will watch the very life drain from them. And I would wait 20 years for the right moment if necessary. Of course, the older I get the more likely it will be the unfortunately fast method of a gunshot.

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By: Richard gray - 22nd January 2010 at 23:21

Norwich man in court for beating up attacker.

This was reported in Norwich Evening News.

Certainly makes one wonder whose better off the criminal or the victim.

A judge has warned a man who beat up an attacker of the dangers of taking the law into his own hands.

Judge Peter Jacobs ordered Mark Cooke, 29, to complete 100 hours of unpaid work for assaulting Simon Kemp, saying: “This is not a vigilante society and courts cannot condone gratuitous violence.”

Cooke, of Samson Road, Norwich, lashed out when his wallet was stolen after a night out on September 19.

He had drunk eight or nine pints of beer before walking home, but was confronted by Kemp and another man as he went through the shopping area in Reepham Road, Norwich.

Summing up at Norwich Crown Court yesterday, Judge Jacobs said: “It looks as though there was a concerted effort made to steal your wallet.

“You pursued them and caught one of the two men and attacked him.”

A witness statement read out in court said Cooke punched Mr Kemp repeatedly and knocked his head against a wall, and may have picked him up and knocked him down again.

Mr Kemp, who was treated by paramedics, suffered a severely bruised face, eyes and head, as well as cuts and bruises on his legs.

Cooke’s wallet was later recovered, but at least £50 had been taken from it, the court heard.

Cooke, of Samson Road, Norwich, pleaded guilty to causing actual bodily harm. He was ordered to complete 100 hours of unpaid work and pay £300 in court costs.

He was not ordered to pay compensation to Mr Kemp because of the circumstances surrounding the incident.

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By: groundhugger - 22nd January 2010 at 14:38

If he’d sorted out the ‘scrotes’ in his home defending his family well and good ! but he didn’t , he became judge and jury and in this case ‘nearly’ executioner,
he should have been left to serve his term.

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By: mike currill - 21st January 2010 at 23:01

Munir Hussein should still be in prison. As should his victim. Questionis, does nyone know the timescale of events? How long were the family tied up? When did Hussein escape? When were Police called? How did he manage to get to his brother’s house, arm himself with a cricket bat and still be able to catch one of those escaping?

Would any of you honestly have done what he did? Or might your first priority have been to protect and stay with your family until Police arrived? Rather than ignoring the welfare of your family, collecting your brother and a cricket bat and going out for revenge.

There’s a lot more to all this than meets the eye.

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Now there we have a real teaser. Do you stay to comfort and protect your family whilst waiting for the police who may never arrive, or do you go and sort the toe rag out?

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By: Arthur Pewtey - 21st January 2010 at 13:26

Is it not the fact that these cases are highlighted because they are unusual?

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By: Sky High - 21st January 2010 at 13:06

Kev

“There’s a lot more to all this than meets the eye.”

There usually is, but I don’t think it detracts from the principle that these days the benefit of doubt always tends towards the perpetrator of a crime rather than the victim.

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By: kev35 - 21st January 2010 at 12:50

Especially when you are being robbed or having your property damaged for the third time in as many months. The straw that broke the camel’s back comes to mind.

Munir Hussein should still be in prison. As should his victim. Questionis, does nyone know the timescale of events? How long were the family tied up? When did Hussein escape? When were Police called? How did he manage to get to his brother’s house, arm himself with a cricket bat and still be able to catch one of those escaping?

Would any of you honestly have done what he did? Or might your first priority have been to protect and stay with your family until Police arrived? Rather than ignoring the welfare of your family, collecting your brother and a cricket bat and going out for revenge.

There’s a lot more to all this than meets the eye.

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By: mike currill - 21st January 2010 at 11:30

Especially when you are being robbed or having your property damaged for the third time in as many months. The straw that broke the camel’s back comes to mind.

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By: Sky High - 21st January 2010 at 11:22

He got “chucked into prison” for manslaughter. It wasn’t necessary to kill anyone. No-one has the right to mete out that sort of “justice”.

You are right, of course, but I wonder what some of us might have done if provoked that far.

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By: Arthur Pewtey - 21st January 2010 at 11:11

Tony Martin did his best to correct that failing amongst the local pikey kids and got chucked into prison for his pains.

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He got “chucked into prison” for manslaughter. It wasn’t necessary to kill anyone. No-one has the right to mete out that sort of “justice”.

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By: Moggy C - 21st January 2010 at 11:04

Perhaps some children are no longer taught right from wrong. They certainly are round my way!

Tony Martin did his best to correct that failing amongst the local pikey kids and got chucked into prison for his pains.

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By: Sky High - 21st January 2010 at 10:20

Good grief – talk about walking on broken glass.:( We must get back to the traditional system which teaches right and wrong and punishes a crime. Perhaps some children are no longer taught right from wrong. They certainly are round my way!

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By: spitfireman - 21st January 2010 at 00:39

On the news just now said that since he was beaten and suffered ‘serious brain damage’ the offender has gone on and re-offended since. The police believe that the Hussein family may still be in danger from this man.

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By: old shape - 20th January 2010 at 23:49

The thing is, once the red mist starts it is very hard to stop, especially if harm or mental harm has been done to ones offsprings. I know I could not stop if I caught somebody (Or knew later) doing harm to my loved ones.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 20th January 2010 at 13:47

Mr. Hussein definitely overstepped the mark regarding his right to defend himself, but what is so unjust about this case is that while he was jailed, his attacker was let go, despite having committed an extremely brutal crime in the first place.

The way the justice system often works in this country makes it seem biased against the victim, with an apparent priority of treating the criminal as humanely and leniently as possible. Maybe the authorities take the view that if you are a criminal you are disadvantaged and desparate, but if you’re sufficiently well-off to be a victim then you should know better. Whatever, justice must be seen to be done and at the moment it isn’t.

As things stand, criminals still know they have a good chance of getting away with whatever they do, while victims who fight back know that they are treading a very thin line between being a have-a-go-hero and a guest of Her Majesty’s.

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By: Moggy C - 20th January 2010 at 13:32

Agree totally, what they did was wrong and the law HAD to take action.

But the scrote got community service and the householders got prison.

The sentencing was the wrong was round.

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By: Arthur Pewtey - 20th January 2010 at 13:09

He hasn’t been acquitted (and rightly so) his sentence has been reduced. If we allow members of the public to beat offenders senseless in the street when they have ceased to be a threat, then we are heading rapidly to anarchy. Why did Mr Hussain call his brother first and not the police? Was revenge rather than justice uppermost in his mind? That’s is no way for a criminal justice system to work.

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By: spitfireman - 20th January 2010 at 12:01

Broke the bat into three pieces! sign him up to the England cricket team.:eek:

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By: Wyvernfan - 20th January 2010 at 11:27

I agree… lets hope this sets a precedent for future similar cases.

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