Soon i will turn 16…

This has to be a record, this thread is 4 YEARS OLD 🙂

Please read the CoC regarding the resurrection of old (or in this case, jurasic) threads

Dean

i found the cheapest and easiest way to learn to fly is to start with your NPPL license, in a Grob 109B Motorglider, it cost at YGC only £1920 to rent the aircraft for the minimum requirement of 32 hours 10 of which have to be solo, then you need to add about £160 for membership, then the £135 for the issuing of the NPPL License, then your exams which i don’t know a price for. but all in all it costs less than 1/2 as much as it would cost me to learn in a Cessna at my local airport Newcastle Intl

exams you need to sit:
Aviation Law
Navigation and Radio Aids
Meteorology
Aircraft General and Principles of Flight
Human Performance and Limitations
Flight Performance and Planning
Communications (written & practical)

and Practical Exams:
NST (Navigational Skills Test)
GST (General Skills Test)

The restrictions on the NPPL are:
Can only fly UK Registered aircraft
can only fly within the UK not including the channel islands
Can’t add ratings such as night and instrument.

so in total its gonna cost you about £4000-£4500 estimate, as far as i know once you fly past the 45 hours requirement for your PPL you can simply do the extra exams if there are any to change your license.

its a cheaper alternative which im trying to find the time and the funds to do myself.

Nice,
i will be learning from Swansea in a C152 also. 😀

Welcome Coke611.

Wish I’d learnt at 16 instead of 40 🙁

Moggy

Hi brenmcc1. I am also soon to be 16, and want a PPL. At this time I dont have any ambitions to go to ATPL standard, the PPL is expensive enough!

I think that if flying is your passion then go for it sooner rather than later. Where are you going to be learning? I am going to be learning from Stapleford in a C152.

Good luck, and safe flying!

🙂

yea i noticed that when there was the Humberside C421 inncident and they were all taken to Scunny General Hospital!

Originally posted by Moggy C
Don’t you just love the fact you can’t post Bent Waters as a single word?

Most forums don’t like Sc’unthorpe either 😉

ah rite – i’m familiar with Honington – used to love the Torns and Buccs when they were there – i suppose i should have read your Aviatar to suss where you fly from!

Don’t you just love the fact you can’t post Bent Waters as a single word?

I fly out of Knettishall, an ex-8th Air Force base just on the edge of the Honington MATZ.

All the runways have gone, but we have some 800 yards of nice smooth grass and a good, solid, lock-up hangar.

Bliss 🙂

Moggy

hi Moggy – i’m frequently in the Ipswich area – spent a fair few hours at those Wattisham/Mildenhall/Lakenheath/Woodbridge/ Ben****ers gates as a kid! – Just wondering where you fly out of from down there?

Originally posted by Moggy C
Picture by your name?

It’s called an Avatar and you arrange it all through your user menu. Take a look. If you can’t figure it out post something on the ‘General’ Forum and a technically minded bod will help you.

Regards

Moggy

🙂 🙂 🙂

Wow thats great thanks for your help/time.

Wow Brendan, what a lot of questions!!

That’s how you learn. I’ll do my best to help, I’m sure there are others who will chip in too.

I’ll use my own aircraft as an example.

I own it in a group with five other guys.

To buy into the group cost me 2,200 quid. Once I decide I want to leave the group it is up to me to sell that share to the next guy. I might get all my money back, I might lose some, I might gain some. Depends how many others are interested.

The fixed costs – rent for the hangar, insurance, compulsory maintenance are estimated each year. This sum is divided equally between the six of us and we can decide to pay it all in a lump, or monthly. Depends how flush you are in January. (‘Not very’ is usually the case for me) This year it has worked out at 600 quid each, or fifty pounds a month.

Then you pay for each hour that you fly the aircraft. This cost covers fuel and oil, plus there is a contribution to an ‘engine fund’ as aircraft have a statutory ‘life’ for the engine measured in operating hours after which time it has to be replaced with a new (rebuilt) one. Generally this is 2,000 hours for the Lycoming. As they cost about 12,000 quid you don’t really want this expense all in one lump, hence the engine fund. If all goes according to plan there will be just about that much money in the bank when the hours run out.

On our aircraft we charge ourselves 37 Pounds for each hour flown. What actually happens is that you tend to refuel the aircraft on the day you fly it, so your account is credited with the cost of the fuel you have paid for. Often this outweighs the amount you owe for flying.

So you can see that in an average year, if I fly fifty hours each one has cost me just 49 quid, less than half what a club would charge me for rental (37 x 50 + 600 / 50).

Booking is done with one member holding a diary. It’s first come, first served, but since we are all friends it sometimes works that a member has the aircraft booked for a local bimble and you decide that you would really like to take your wife to France then the bimbler will step aside. It is all very amicable, there has never been a problem yet (Even when I got stuck in France with bad weather and one of the others wanted to go to the PFA rally. You get used to that in private flying)

Picture by your name?

It’s called an Avatar and you arrange it all through your user menu. Take a look. If you can’t figure it out post something on the ‘General’ Forum and a technically minded bod will help you.

Regards

Moggy

How do i get a pic by my name?

What a touching story:D lol.

Yes i will deff try at least 1s to get my PPL at my local airport (swansea – Air wales now flying from there to London city, http://swanseaairport.com , http://airwales.com) i think its about £90 a lesson including other fees. But what my DREAM is to say that i fly for a comapny e.g BA, Virgin or even Air Wales. So i suppose you could say i would like to do it as an occupation, therefore i kneed good exam results i think you kneed 7 GCSEs grades A – C for BA 5 for others which include ; English , Maths and Science. Then you kneed to get A level grade A – C in ; Physics, English and maths. You kneed evidence of good team work. But yet again it’s very competative to get a job some go on to higher education and reach A* in all their subjects. I’m not using exams as an excuse but whith all the heppening ocver the last few yers in iraq, 9/11, afganistan its badly hit the airline industry and very few airlines are offering jobs and if they do the grade A pupils will always be chosen.

I have been saving for a while now for my PPL and will also have to save a bit more before i can afford it. I will get a job and learn to fly as soon as possible.

How much would a share in a small plane cost e.g Cessna 152?
And how do you work out when you get the plane and how you pay for all costs?

Cheers,
Brendan ——– Look out for Bren air if i win the lotto you’ll them about 😀

Dear Brenmcc1.

I am a pilot.

You have no idea how much pleasure it gives me to write those words.

I grew up just after the Second World War.

Spitfires and Mosquitos flew over my house daily. All I ever wanted to do was to fly combat aircraft.

But I’m short sighted (And a coward – but that’s another issue)

So, in a world crowded with retired bomber pilots I stood no chance of becoming a pilot at anybody else’s expense.

Then I found out about women. A great diversion, but (trust me) nowhere near as good as the real thing.

After a marital disaster I had the (relatively) small amount of funds needed to learn to fly as a PPL.

Now I have a share in an old Piper ragwing off an ex-8th AF field here in Suffolk.

Nothing is more important than flying.

On the Fora I browse there are people who spend money on computers and games (Sorry – flight sims) and cameras that would enable them to get a PPL.

If they are still on the ground the only thing that is stopping them is themselves..

Don’t keep blaming ‘funds’

Don’t keep blaming ‘exams’

If you want to fly – you can.

Hold onto that dream and make it come true.

Moggy

Not really no….

Anyway 2 weeks and i’m on a virgin 747-400

Cant wait!!!

So are all u people pilots? If you are who do you fly for?

or do u work far an airline company? Which one?

People of all ages and ranges of ability have learned to fly, really depends on your commitment.
Seriously, I had have always wanted to be a pilot (every aviation enthusiasts dream) but as I have become older I have looked into other areas like ATC or aviation business, even a cabin attendant. Have you ever thought about doing something in aviation other than a pilot? You would still be in the aviation domain and could still probably take your PPL for leisure purposes. Just as fun as a pilot if you like aircraft.

I suppose that is somthing to think about but i dont know if i am talanted enough for uni really. 🙁

I suppose my only way is to become rich and buy my own company.

Better still, go to uni and study a course that relates to aviation. My best mate studied aeronautical engineering and got lots of flying as part of his course. Wish I had his brains!

Futurshox is right Bren – move away to a nice student town – it’ll be the making of you.

Wish I could go back to a few years – uni was the time of my life.

S’gull