November 21, 2006 at 12:51 pm
Hi all
We have just taken delivery of a load of empty .303 cartridge cases and I am looking for a source of bullets to go in the ends.
Can anyone recommend a source of (safe) bullets please?
Thanks
By: Whitley_Project - 30th November 2006 at 11:09
Thanks for the kind offer Chris. I’ll dig out the details and email them to you.
Cheers
Elliott
By: CSheppardholedi - 29th November 2006 at 19:45
Has your group given this Whitley project a proposed Sq color scheme and markings yet or just waiting until there are a few more pieces to pop together before determining that? I would be willing to work up an illustration for it if you can scratch up the data required. Might help in fund raising and promotion.
See my site below-Aircraft Illustration for the type work I do. I’m always looking for that next project to tackle, and rather than finish one and put it away to gather dust, get it out there doing something would be a nice change.
Regards
Chris
By: Moggy C - 27th November 2006 at 14:16
As in any industry words have particular meanings.
In trying to help the original questioner it does no harm to provide accurate information for usage in the arms and ammunition business.
It would be the same as somebody with limited aviation knowledge referring to ailerons and calling them flaps?
Your reference to spelling has me baffled.
Moggy
By: QldSpitty - 26th November 2006 at 07:20
Jesus I think we all know what he meant.We aren,t all kindagarten kids trying to spell now are we.Pick,pick,pick. 😀
By: Moggy C - 26th November 2006 at 00:46
Instead of “cartridge” you should have put “cartridge case”:
Indeed. Or less formally ‘brass’
Moggy
By: Tony Williams - 25th November 2006 at 21:48
Can I refer everybody back to Mikes excellent summary
Bullet
Cartridge
Propellant / powder
PrimerAll go together to form a round.
Talk of ‘heads’ and ‘projectiles’ is unnecessary and inaccurate. The question was accurately phrased, WP wants bullets.
Not quite, although I agree that “heads” is completely meaningless.
Instead of “cartridge” you should have put “cartridge case”: the cartridge is the entire case+bullet+propellant+primer unit, and therefore means the same as “round”, although it’s a little more formal. And “projectiles” is not inaccurate – that term is used to refer to anything fired from a gun, whether it be bullet, shot or shell.
Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum
By: Charley - 24th November 2006 at 18:22
Just buy a copy of “Gun Mart”. There will be plenty of stockists who sell .303 bullets and they will not be expensive. They are commonly used for target shooting. Do not try to buy any hollowpoint or soft-point version as they can only be used for hunting in the UK and must be specified on a Firearms Certificate. I recall that the original “Dum Dum” bullet was a modified .303 bullet used by the British in India.
By: Whitley_Project - 23rd November 2006 at 21:02
Thanks Rob
PM sent.
Right then, I know someone who can get you 3800 bullets at 30p per bullet – he buys the bullets and the cartridge cases and clamps them together, so could also find the 200 bullet heads you need. Are you interested? I’ll be having a look at the bullets on Sunday so could get photos etc, I could look after the bullets till you are able to pick them up if it helps
By: Rlangham - 22nd November 2006 at 22:26
Right then, I know someone who can get you 3800 bullets at 30p per bullet – he buys the bullets and the cartridge cases and clamps them together, so could also find the 200 bullet heads you need. Are you interested? I’ll be having a look at the bullets on Sunday so could get photos etc, I could look after the bullets till you are able to pick them up if it helps
By: Junk Collector - 22nd November 2006 at 22:03
You could ask Bisley if you could have some of the heads when they clear out the butts, there will be thousands probably there all in sand or soft ground, as a kid I used to dig bags full off an old rifle range
By: Whitley_Project - 22nd November 2006 at 16:50
Good idea John
I’ll give it a try. Bisley is also an excellent idea.
Dig out your yellow pages and give your local gun club a ring, there is always someone who re-loads their own ammunition and .303 is a very common round so chances are that there would be some willing donations of old cartridges.
Regards,
John.
By: Whitley_Project - 22nd November 2006 at 16:25
Hi Rob
PM sent.
Not sure what your laws are regarding importation, but I’m sure I could find a few machinegunners over here in the US who might be willing to put together some linked .303 belts (cases and inert bullets only – no primers or powder) for a fair price. Would an item like that be restricted for import into the UK?
By: topgun regect - 22nd November 2006 at 15:26
You could also try the NRA at Bisley they may be able to point you in the right direction.
Martin
By: CSheppardholedi - 22nd November 2006 at 14:08
Or perhaps this site
http://www.cobbatoncombat.co.uk/sales/inert.htm
Making your own bullets and working for under a $ an hour….sounds like you want to become an ARTIST! 😉
I should know…I am one!
Good hunting
Isn’t the internet GRAND!
Chris
By: CSheppardholedi - 22nd November 2006 at 14:03
Try this web site, they sell inert “drilled” ammo for display use.
http://www.oldammo.com/ammo/british.txt
Chris
By: Moggy C - 22nd November 2006 at 09:07
Bullets are always safe until you sit them in a cartridge on top of a propellant charge. OK, so I’m being picky but a bullet is the bit that does the damage. The bit that holds the propellant and percussion cap is a cartridge and the whole assembly is referred to as a round.
Can I refer everybody back to Mikes excellent summary
Bullet
Cartridge
Propellant / powder
Primer
All go together to form a round.
Talk of ‘heads’ and ‘projectiles’ is unnecessary and inaccurate. The question was accurately phrased, WP wants bullets.
Moggy
By: QldSpitty - 22nd November 2006 at 07:42
Have you also considered resin casting the projectiles?Get a set of 10 done up in a master then pour merrily away with the resin.Most modelling stores have resin casting sets for the detail freaks making up their own plane bits. 😉
By: Arabella-Cox - 22nd November 2006 at 07:00
Sounds like you only need projectiles.
The 303 is not actually .303 of an inch in calibre, it is actually .311 inch. If you can get projectiles that are in 308 calibre cheaper then they will be a close enough fit for a display. The only trouble might be getting Full metal jacket ammo which is not normally used for hunting. Standard Ball or FMJ ammo is inert and completely safe to handle. Casting rounds will require casting equiment and a bit of time if you are doing a lot. Unless you work for a dollar an hour it would probably be cheaper to just buy from a gun shop… unless you could foresee doing this alot then the casting stuff might be worth investing in.
By: Rob Mears - 22nd November 2006 at 01:01
Not sure what your laws are regarding importation, but I’m sure I could find a few machinegunners over here in the US who might be willing to put together some linked .303 belts (cases and inert bullets only – no primers or powder) for a fair price. Would an item like that be restricted for import into the UK?
By: Rocketeer - 22nd November 2006 at 00:29
Speaking of .303s. Anyone out there seen or have a link to a good pic of a Catalina PBY’s side blister .303 guns? I am working on an illustration of an RAF Cat involved with a UBoat and think they may want to be shooting their pop guns at it. I have found plenty of pics of the US version, but understand the RAF used twin .303s in the side Blisters.
I have seen it listed as twin Vickers and twin Brownings…Hmmm…the internet can drive one to drink!
Please point me to a link or pop a picture, and don’t eat the bullets…..slow death by lead poisoning! 😉
Chris
I must have a piccy of my Grandad’s cat somewhere with this (he sank U601)