South African Hurricane

Interesting pics, however there was no evidence of anything like that knocking around yesterday.

Sorry Daz – that picture isn’t great but it doesn’t show a canopy. Whereas the plan does…
This is from Aircraft in Profile Vol1/Part2, 4th edition,1976, again, and does show a canopy!

Flood.

Mutter, moan… Flaming dot-jpgs…

Flood.

Another pic of the unique Persian two-seater – from the same source…
Whilst looking I found a reference (Aircraft in Profile Vol1/Part2, 4th edition,1976, and smelling very musty!) to the US Navys Sea Hurricanes and Canadian-built Mk.XIIs being left on French North African territory as the war moved on and some were used by the French Navy! New one on me – anyone heard this before or, better still, got pictures of them in French service?
Thanks,

Flood.

Didn’t the Persian Hurricane have open cockpits? Or am I imagining things? I also thought the rear fuselage profile was slight different, too, although again I could have imagined it!

Re: 2-seater Hurricane

Originally posted by DazDaMan
There was something in Flypast or A*roplane about this – and it wasn’t a Persian Hurricane job. Apparently there was a locally-modified two-seater somewhere, with a second canopy behind the original.

Anyone got a pic for any non-believers (if any!)?

Thought I’d post the Persian two-seater, just for reference…
Oops – taken from Hurricane by Edward Bishop.

Flood.

I found the article from A***plane June 2001. Essentially Ant is correct. The 2 seat Hurri was devised by a US Aircobra squadron who had a Hurricane as a target tug. They converted it so they could take their ground crews up for a flight.
If you use Ask Jeeves for Jim Pearce refs it throws up one ‘Aeroplane June 2001’ which reprints the whole article. The full link is too long to go here.
mmitch.
http://www.ask.co.uk

I would think it is still in the pipeline, they do have a few others to finish first however.

The plan from Hawker Resorations as I remember it was that they would lengthen the cockpit and squeeze a jump-seat in behind the pilot (the canopy would be four frames long,rather than the usual three).Hurri’s were used by a number of USAAF units in the Med as communications aircraft,and a number of those had a jump seat squeezed in after a certain amount of modification work.Hawker Restorations were planning to do thiers in a similar way,although ofcourse it would have to meet modern safety standards.I don’t remember anything about Persian style two-seaters,but perhaps I missed something…
IIRC,they were going to use the identity of a Battle of Britain Mk.1 for the two-seater if it was built but I don’t know what’s become of the plan.

Re: 2-seater Hurricane

Originally posted by DazDaMan
There was something in Flypast or A*roplane about this – and it wasn’t a Persian Hurricane job. Apparently there was a locally-modified two-seater somewhere, with a second canopy behind the original.

Anyone got a pic for any non-believers (if any!)?

From memory (sometimes dodgy) it was an article about a Hurricane restorer (Hawker restorations?) that had the parts from a 2 seat Hurri. The ambition was to build one given time and money. There wasn’t one completed.
mmitch.

2-seater Hurricane

There was something in Flypast or A*roplane about this – and it wasn’t a Persian Hurricane job. Apparently there was a locally-modified two-seater somewhere, with a second canopy behind the original.

Anyone got a pic for any non-believers (if any!)?

I have some photos here in the house of a Hurricane you guys will be seeing soon enough (in fact, probably next year)….trouble is I’m not allowed to post them. The Lone Star Flight Museum’s bird is expected to emerge from lengthy restoration next spring…I posted some pics of her last summer on the avi8.com site and promptly got a call from Ray telling me to remove them and we got into an argument about his photo policies in the hangar and obtaining permission (I had permission from Ralph Royce of the LSFM and two of Ray’s own employees telling me it was OK to shoot), but Ray maintained I did not have permission from the ‘owner’ of the plane (Which, I assume, would be Robert Waltrip, owner of the LSFM) or Middleton himself…so I withdrew the photos and have not shown them to anyone since….curiously, I saw a photo of it in the shop shot by someone else not long after our little run-in, and alerted Ray to the fact (it was on the LSFM site) and it has also since dissappeared…..anyway, I look forward to its flight testing next summer, which if it goes anything like Captain Eddie’s Firefly testing, means we’ll see this thing zooming all over Northern Colorado for a few weeks….

Mark

I’d be very suprised if G-ROBT has flown, most of the restoration was carried out in the South of England, not in Suffolk.

I have tried to add info on some of the aircraft listed on the WRG site, however they did not seem to be to interested, so I gave up.

P2902

History:
Delivered to RAF as P2902, 19??.
– Crashed, Dunkirk, France, May 31, 1940.
Hulk recovered from sand dunes, Dunkirk, 1988.
Maurice Hammond, Suffolk, 19??.
Anthony J. Ditheridge/Hawker Restorations, Milden, Suffolk, UK, 1994.
Richard A. Roberts, Billingshurst, Sept. 19, 1994-2002.
– Registered as G-ROBT.
– Restored to airworthy, Suffolk, 1994-2001.
– Flown as P2902/DX-X.

This is from the
Warbirds Resource Group

This site looks pretty good for info on all types, if you think the info’s wrong please tell them, the site needs upto date info & pics on plenty of individual aircraft of all types.

Looking at both sites there are a number of errors with regard to the status of some of these machines, for example the Canadian Warplane Heritage aircrft is not airworthy, neither are BW881, Z5053, Z5207 or P2902, however AE977 is. This one looks a lot closer to the mark http://www.jacksonharrison.co.uk/BoB2/HurricaneSociety/hurricane_list.htm

P2902 (G-ROBT) hasn’t been in the Sudbury area for many years now.

Originally posted by DazDaMan
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There’s another – P2902, owned by an R A Roberts in Sudbury.
Never heard of it, unless it’s just recently flown – VERY recently??

Oh, I think you’d know it if you’d seen it –
2 Seater Hurricane?
Apparently!

Flood.

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There’s another – P2902, owned by an R A Roberts in Sudbury.

Never heard of it, unless it’s just recently flown – VERY recently??