February 8, 2013 at 12:43 pm
Just a memory.
I’ve always looked back on the ‘living room’ cockpits of USAF fighter aircraft. With ashtray!!
Last night I thought back to my P38 experience – alongside Captain Plumb, USAF.
Can’t get more comfy than that?

= Tim
By: Oily Rag - 9th February 2013 at 12:31
Thanks Tim – email sent.
By: cotteswold - 9th February 2013 at 11:18
No, Duggy. USAF. Great link.
Oily Rag – well yes – a few snippets – but no hope of a book. Just not enough ‘filler’. If you give me your email address, I’ll post you a few if you wish?
Tried to put them on here but was phased out with ERROR!
= Tim
By: JollyGreenSlugg - 9th February 2013 at 10:42
Wasn’t that supposed to be the same action that P-47 pilots were encouraged to undertake twenty-odd years earlier?!
By: Mr Creosote - 9th February 2013 at 10:32
On the subject of roomy USAF cockpits, I remember someone joking once that the pilot of an F-101 under enemy fire would take evasive action by getting out of his seat and running around the cockpit.
By: Oily Rag - 9th February 2013 at 09:44
Just spotted a good looking young chap in a book, “RAF in Russia”…!!
Tales to tell or what, Cotteswold!?
Have you jotted any of your adventures down yet? You really should!
By: Duggy - 8th February 2013 at 23:21
Wow, as always wonderful stuff.
Was the P-38, an RAF bird ??
A link – http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?299
Regards Duggy
By: J Boyle - 8th February 2013 at 21:43
I was reading an aircraft history recently…i can’t remember which one…that mentioned it had not only ash trays, but cigar lighters as standard equipment.
By: cotteswold - 8th February 2013 at 18:48
Can’t answer that JB. I was side by side, & I’m 6’4″.
Oh – Heaters? Ashtrays?? Ice cream??? Unfair, perhaps, because of the time they could spend at altitude. And I tested the first pair of heated gloves in 1941 because my fingers were so frozen one day on the Canterbury patrol line at 30+000′ that I could not switch to reserve tank.
Just jealousy!!
= Tim
By: J Boyle - 8th February 2013 at 17:42
Your description of a Lightning cockpit as spacious reminded me of something my fater said about the P-38.
He was a B-17 pilot with the 15th AF in Italy. It seems at or near the end of the war, he talked himself into a ride in a P-38. I don’t know whether the second seat was behind the pilot as used as a hack, or whether it was one of the night-fighter or glass nosed variants.
By standards of the day, he was a fairly big guy…all of 5’9″.
He enjoyed his flight(s) but siad the cockpit was awfully cramped.
Another thing I recently read was P-38s weren’t that popular for high altitude missions because the heater wasn’t effective enough. Pilots had to dress warmly.
Did you have occasion to test the heater?
By: Arabella-Cox - 8th February 2013 at 15:57
Tim – PM sent.
DAI
By: Bmused55 - 8th February 2013 at 15:02
For someone like me who can only fly the Thunderbolt and Lightening in an online game, you are a living legend. Write a book dammit!