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Speyer Aero Boot this weekend

These are some of the parts bought/brought yesterday from Speyer.

A healthy dose of kudos to who can work out what they are from…

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By: FarlamAirframes - 18th October 2010 at 13:04

I have been checking the blue engine cowl with no success. The calculation of chords and arcs says outside dia of 1.5m. The BMW 801 was 1.29 and there were few other radial engines of that dia in use.

From the paint and the Toulouse location – I am assuming it is either German or French used by the Luftwaffe. Latecoere aircraft were made there pre fall of France.

I have managed to discount the Ju88 which were made at Toulouse. The cowls are wrong.

The three rectangular cut outs must be distinctive.

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By: FarlamAirframes - 18th October 2010 at 08:44

Thanks Peter – it is, as you suspected, a similar shape.

A few points on it:

The original paint was light blue. This has been subsequently painted on top.
When I closed the small sliding hatch – the dark green paint underneath was intact.

The inside has a large former at one end – the end with the dzus fastenings and nearest the servo motor hatch – possible the front end where the cowl was latched on.

Its size is 80 cm x 1.25m (excluding lugs). There is a slight curve in the panel to the rear – flatter at the front.

I have not stripped the paint – but there are some simple inspection stamps visible on the end pieces.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 18th October 2010 at 08:34

Brian,

here’s a picture of a similar panel. This one is of an He 51.

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By: FarlamAirframes - 18th October 2010 at 07:47

Peter and Augsburg – yes this panel was up for auction before. I posted some pictures here at that time – as it was Unknown and intriguing.

As it is too large for Deutsche Post – I discussed with the owner about the price and picking it up at Speyer.

Now the important question is what is it from!

Peter your idea of a bi plane under panel is of interest as I had not thought of that option. It fits with the shape and Dzus at one end only.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 18th October 2010 at 07:23

The paint is RLM 76 with I think 81 and 82 – so late war.

You wouldn’t have found many of those in a different scheme than 76; 81; 82later in the war anyway:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Luftwaffe-Flugzeug-Doppeldecker-Tankwagen-1940-/280576607222?pt=Militaria&hash=item4153ab43f6

That panel was up on Ebay a few times. I also saw it in Speyer back in April for slightly less than on Ebay but still too high.

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By: Augsburgeagle - 17th October 2010 at 22:16

The large access panel has the Gerate number for a servo motor. !

Someone was asking about that recently, was it on this forum? I think I recognise some panels from ebay

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By: FarlamAirframes - 17th October 2010 at 19:50

Bruce

Correct it is part of an FW190 Landing Flap.

The first two pics are Ju88 Engine cowl.

The underwing fuselage panel is from an Me110,

The blue engine cowl was recovered near Toulouse. The radial engine diameter would be 1.5m. So either A BMW or an Rhone…

Peter the piece you think is from a biplane is unknown -It is all Alu – it was recovered from the German /czech border 20 years ago. The large access panel has the Gerate number for a servo motor. The paint is RLM 76 with I think 81 and 82 – so late war.

Definitely a good place to go for unusual items. And large pieces of C47!

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By: Bruce - 17th October 2010 at 18:34

The half flaps is from an FW190

Speyer is a fantastic place for finding stuff!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 17th October 2010 at 18:12

242 and 243 appear to be a bottom fuselage panel from between the lower wings of a Luftwaffe biplane. It is definately not from an He 51, possibly an Arado 68 or something of the sort.

Peter

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