Spitfire and Concorde in the final

Welcome Christian -‘fraid the backseats spoken for….

Bruce, shucks, so what do YOU know about this aircraft preservation lark that Speedbird doesnt…. :rolleyes: 😉

Time to eject from this thread I think>>>> 😮

TT

The attitude of Gordo and his chums on ConcordeSST.com, is typical and if you look at their forum – despite reminiscing about life and times at The Green Man

Don’t think we’ve had a get together there for a while, last get together was a fantastic weekend in Edinburgh.

As for their Concorde – its not theirs!

Of Course its not silly. Its BA owned. About 1/3 of Brooklands Concorde Volunteers are members on the SST forum. Next biggest chunk is former Concorde engineers who worked Concorde for 27 years or longer!

if they were as to up to date on their facts and if they claim to know the people well enough as SCG do then they would know that most of the senior ex-Concorde personnel see no technical reason why the plane could not fly.

See Answer above. Nothing is impossible, but highly unlikely. As you know in 2003 BA did nothing to the actual 5 serviceable Concordes that would prevent them flying again, as for the support infrastructure thats gone!

Welcombe to this one ChristiaanJ,

GASYD

Oh, and sorry for dropping in without introducing myself properly.

Cheers!

It’s a pleasure, Sir! 🙂

Oh, and sorry for dropping in without introducing myself properly.

Cheers!

Not at all. Pleased to have you here. Welcome.

Moggy

I had a great time reading this thread.
Thanks to all the contributors!

Even to BASpeedbird001, even if he’s once more more dragging the reputation of SCG into the mud. I don’t think I’ll bother to answer his latest post

TEXANTOMCAT,
Don’t know about a Beech :diablo: but an armed T-6…. anytime! I want to hear that supersonic prop again. Need a backseat driver?

Oh, and sorry for dropping in without introducing myself properly.
Concorde flight test support in the early ’70s. Incidental jobs on her since. Flew on one of the last round-the-Bays.
Member of both SST and SCG, and tried to ask some of the hard questions on SCG without much success.

Cheers!

– what they hell are you on about!?

Yep, that’s what we are all wondering! :rolleyes:

I see your little holiday has done nothing to improve your attitude – you do SCG no favours whatsoever!

Speedbird; firstly, you dont understand much about volunteering. I have been working as a volunteer for a museum for 18 years. I dont own those aircraft; I dont care; the museum provides me with an opportunity to indulge in my hobby at minimal cost to myself.

Further, as you must realise by now, none of the Concordes recently surplussed belong to the museums that they are kept with; they are all owned by BA. They are their aircraft, including the one you have your eyes on. I think they well knew that unless they retained ownership, every nutter and loony would crawl out from the top floor of the bus and gather round. Perhaps not so silly….

Now, lastly, go and look at the problems the Vulcan team are having in raising money to get that aircraft in the air – very similar technology, and similarly iconic to many people. They have spares support however, the spares werent sold on a website as curios!

We live in the real world. Perhaps you should pull aside the curtain, open the window, and smell the fresh air…

Bruce

Well, it sure ain’t Concorde – he must be off pursuing his other favourite hobby – lorry spotting! :dev2:

Sorry chaps for the delay in answering questions – have been away for a long time actually doing something!!
I’m don’t feel I’m being abusive but put yourselves in the shoes of SCG – they are trying for gods sake and are managing to keep the name alive. The attitude of Gordo and his chums on ConcordeSST.com, is typical and if you look at their forum – despite reminiscing about life and times at The Green Man – they actually need SCG more than they think because we’re providing them with something to talk about – without SCG – they’re a little stuck! As for their Concorde – its not theirs! They don’t possess it – they are merely providing support to it. It belongs to Brooklands and whilst SST guys have contributed and done a grand job – it still doesn’t give them the right to criticise SCG the way they do – they should be holding their heads in shame if they think that they’re Concorde fans – reality maybe one thing but if they were as to up to date on their facts and if they claim to know the people well enough as SCG do then they would know that most of the senior ex-Concorde personnel see no technical reason why the plane could not fly. It is BA’s commercial obstinacy that is preventing this and this commercial attitude is not acceptable to the prosperity of the heritage of Great Britain. For all the answers, as I’ve said, go over to SCG where all your issues can be answered by all concerned….www.save-concorde.co.uk.

At the end of the day guys – you cannot knock them for trying their hardest and believe you me, they are doing that and going places – you would know that if you gave them a chance and found it in you to step down off your moral high ground (s) and headed over there to find out what’s happening!

PS….Lorryspotting – what they hell are you on about!? Nowt to do with me!

😀

Ahh, that’ll be tumbleweed blowing past then.

TT

Well, it sure ain’t Concorde – he must be off pursuing his other favourite hobby – lorry spotting! :dev2:

Ahh, that’ll be tumbleweed blowing past then.

TT

Speedbird –

Wouldve thought Gordos post summed it all up. Never gonna happen in a million years –

so apart from no knowledge on HLF applications, charitable status (BTW it is an offence to hold yourself out as Charity when not registered as such), aero engineering on reality. One wonders what exactly you bring to the table as regards this whole return to flight business then Speedbird – are you involved with any Museums? restorations? charitable groups? Or, as I suspect are you a bit of a dreamer hoping one day to see a concorde in the air –

Dont have a problem with dreamers – but dont bull cheese a bull cheeser – we’ve heard it all before and frankly its insulting!

Far better to channel some of that enthusiasm and get thee up to DAS, perhaps lend them a hand doing some of the crappy jobs on their concorde – cleaning etc that real preservationists have to do, maybe chat to visitors, prepare displays, write articles etc etc – then you can properly say – you are helping to conserve concorde.

Many of us do this in our own spare time to do our own PRACTICAL bit for preservation – ‘fraid sitting behind a PC writing strongly worded posts aint gonna do a thing….

🙁

TT

Oh and Mk 12 – Russell Square…

Again, I am not going to waste my breath, particularly when the mighty Gordo knows it all – so why bother?

Why the aggressive attitude all the time? There is every reason to bother if you think SCG are going to achieve something! If your attitude is typical of the rest of the group then you do need a lot of help…and not just with fund raising!

As for all your remarks towards Gordo – it seems to have escaped you that he has actually got his hands on a Concorde – something your group seem to refer to as a scrapheap? Strange term for something that was so important in the history of Concorde.

Oh well, I’ll wait for my barrage of abuse now! :rolleyes:

WL747, on this matter, I will have to agree with you.

Now, don’t get me wrong, and please hear me out on this one. I think the Concord(e) is one of the most outstanding examples of aerospace technology ever created.

Concorde has a proven safety record.
There are (almost) current engineering and flying staff available to operate a Concorde.
Many thousands of people have an association with Concorde.
There is a swell of optimism that makes noises in support of a flying Concorde.

Funding will be a problem.
Finding a Design Authority will be a problem.
Obtaining the blessing of the Type Design Organisations will be a problem.
Recieving approval from the CAA will be a problem.

Concorde will never again fly this side of the Atlantic.

Don’t believe me?

Then substitute ‘Concorde’ with ‘Shackleton’.

Nuff said.

Camlobe, personally I think you have more chance getting your Shack cockpit back to flight…. :diablo:

Speedbird…

The SCG forum is hardly the source of great information and help…its treated as a second class citizen by ‘the management’…

BASpeedbird001

Gordo wrote “As someone a little in the know can I post some answers:”

Hardly “pretend to know it all!” as you claim.

How is it, with your own contacts with the SCG group, that you cannot refute his information with any facts that your colleagues in that group could supply?

I am one of the many who are very proud of Concorde but accept that circumstances have led to permanent grounding, which is unfortunate but a fact of life.

Its so bloody simple – you want answers – go onto the SCG forums and register your interest instead of waiting for them to come to you – you will find its a lot easier and you will get better answers from some of them than me, because unlike the mighty Gordo, I don’t pretend to know it all!

I am not going to waste my breath

No answers

No credibility

No idea

No hope

Bye!