Spitfire auction

WoooooHooooo!

I understand the aircraft flew out of Thruxton to Lambourn, Berks yesterday. I’m told that Pete John and Robs Lamplough were the crew for the ferry flight and it is indeed heading for the Filton area at some point.

I think the same crew that look after Robs MK VIII are doing the same for this one.

Steve

I understand the aircraft flew out of Thruxton to Lambourn, Berks yesterday. I’m told that Pete John and Robs Lamplough were the crew for the ferry flight and it is indeed heading for the Filton area at some point.

I think at the time that Works D was valued at more than a Spitfire.

Mark

I think they probably still are – for the best at least!

Bruce

Seen that photo before (or something similar)

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5503/60tftwoworksporsches718rq6.jpg

Nice ‘tache!

Seriously, thanks for putting me right – I read it years ago, and understood that it had happened more than once.

Adrian
(wondering which foot he will put in it next…)

Nice ‘tache!…that is the grin of a man second only to stepping out from the back seat of a Spitfire trainer.

Not for those with a toupée disposition. 🙂

I think at the time that Works D was valued at more than a Spitfire.

Mark

Nice ‘tache!

Seriously, thnks for putting me right – I read it years ago, and understood that it had happened more than once.

Adrian
(wondering which foot he will put in it next…)

Nice Batmobile:p

Cees

I know I’m a bit late to the event, but I thought I’d throw the D-Type Jag into the equation.

The D-Type has a monocoque chassis, and an enormous sub-frame assembly that bolts in almost the whole length of the monocoque. As ever with bent racing cars, the factory chopped and changed parts from one car to another, as did later owners, monocoques got seperated from sub-frames and various D-Types have been reconstructed over the years from the bits. This means that there are several cars that have been allocated an ID on the basis of the sub-frame. Add to this several cars given an ID based on the monocoque, and you can see this coming… Yes, there are rebuilt D-Types out there that share an ID with another car because one has been built round an original sub-frame and one round the monocoque.

Anyway, the important bit is Rivet’s note – more details would be nice!

Adrian

Ah, but the very important thing with the D Type is that the manufacturers dataplate is firmly affixed to the tubular front chassis frame, not the aluminium monocoque ‘tub’.

Mark

Actually, the two cars in question were bought by one man, and the original car reunited. So there is now one original, and one very nice replica.

Bruce

Only this week I have been reading about a Porsche that was badly damaged in a fatal accident which killed a well known racing driver in the 50’s. It was “restored” many years later by grafting on the back half of the frame from a later Porsche and was raced in that form in Historic races for some time.

I know I’m a bit late to the event, but I thought I’d throw the D-Type Jag into the equation.

The D-Type has a monocoque chassis, and an enormous sub-frame assembly that bolts in almost the whole length of the monocoque. As ever with bent racing cars, the factory chopped and changed parts from one car to another, as did later owners, monocoques got seperated from sub-frames and various D-Types have been reconstructed over the years from the bits. This means that there are several cars that have been allocated an ID on the basis of the sub-frame. Add to this several cars given an ID based on the monocoque, and you can see this coming… Yes, there are rebuilt D-Types out there that share an ID with another car because one has been built round an original sub-frame and one round the monocoque.

Anyway, the important bit is Rivet’s note – more details would be nice!

Adrian

Seems It flew yesterday!……………………………..:eek:

As others have said originality will always be a thorny issue but I think we all have to accept that in many cases major parts have to be replaced to maintain any mechanical device in working order. As long as any buyer knows the provenance and there is a record of what has been replaced there should be no problem.
This isn’t confined to aviation. I undeerstand that the steam loco Flying Scotsman has had most parts replaced during its lifetime including several replacement boilers but it is still Flying Scotsman.
Only this week I have been reading about a Porsche that was badly damaged in a fatal accident which killed a well known racing driver in the 50’s. It was “restored” many years later by grafting on the back half of the frame from a later Porsche and was raced in that form in Historic races for some time. It has now been restored again to the same appearance as the start of the race where it was involved in the fatal accident and inevitably this has meant replacement of much of the chassis to correct the work from the previous rebuild. It has also received an original but unused rear body as the one from the fatal accident was beyond repair. In my view the car now is better than the first rebuild using part of a later car but there will be those who argue that it no longer deserves to carry the original chassis plate as it incorporates a good deal of new material. There is no easy answer to this dilemma we just have to accept that all working machines have to have parts replaced if we want to continue to see them operating.
The other side of the coin is that as a result of the second rebuild there is now most of the back end of a mid/late 50’s Porsche sports racer going spare – now where is that chassis plate and the welding torch!

“In 2002 millionaire Steve Brooks attempted to become the first pilot in history to fly from the North Pole to the South Pole in a single-jet helicopter. But when he and his co pilot plunged into the sea off Antarctica and nearly froze to death they made the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Despite this and against the will of their families Steve and Q remained undaunted. In 2005 they went back to try again. Through actual film footage and powerful dramatic reconstruction this film tells the story of their first attempt, their miraculous rescue and their determination to complete their mission. British pilots Steve Brooks and Quentin Smith completed a first when they landed their Robinson 44 helicopter at the South Pole on January 18, 2005. The two started their journey in Ushuaia, southern Argentina, crossing the Drake Passage, the length of the Antarctic Penninsula, and the expanse of the polar plateau, before arriving at the Geographic South Pole.”

I recall the incident. A lot of people were pretty unhappy that someone had tried to cross a large stretch of freezing water in a single engine aircraft. Rescuers then put themselves in danger etc etc. Was considered poor judgement at the time.

And will it remain in Dutch livery?

BW Roger

I hope so.

And will it remain in Dutch livery?

BW Roger

That would be nice!

The Bristol area would be my guess. 😉

Mark

Does anyone know where its being operated from?

At the end of the day who really cares how original an airframe is? The main reason we are here is to keep the memory flying!
If folk want to count rivets thats fine but that won’t really keep the old birds flying!
Just remember the old saying about Henry IIX’s broom, Its had 12 new handles & 16 new brushes but its still his broom! :D:D

😀 Well said .