December 31, 2004 at 8:33 pm
Can anyone come up with a colour photo of the BBMF Spitfire AB910, when it flew in civilian colours as G-AISU for air racing in 1947, when it was flown by Air Cdr. Allen Wheeler? I have had conflicting reports about its colour, ranging from silver to light grey to blue?
By: BSteinIPMS - 13th February 2005 at 02:47
Dan,
Sounds like a win/win situation and I’m pleased you’ve come away happy. Your artwork has made a number of Corgi collectors very happy, too. Sounds like a very successful enterprise on the part of all parties. 😀
–Bob
By: Dan Johnson - 10th February 2005 at 03:46
Dan,
Just out of curiosity, were your images copyrighted, or did you enter into some sort of agreement with the manufacturer or their representatives to allow them to use your artwork? Or do you feel their two diecast Club models (blue civil Hurri, gray civil Spit) were based on other references primarily? :confused:–Bob Steinbrunn
I’d been doing profiles for fun for a while and started posting them here. One of the Corgi folks asked me if I’d take a crack at the Blue Hurri. No problem. Just doing it for fun. Later asked if I’d take a crack at the possible scheme for G-AISU. He sent me a B&W image of the Spit and I guessed my best. Again no big deal
I didn’t copyright anything. Didn’t know I needed to 🙂 If you go through old threads on Flypast you’ll see all kinds of profiles I’ve done for fun just because it might fit with a thread. I just did a Spit 18 yesterday and posted it as a matter of fact. All kinds of MH434 profiles floating around Flypast, Mustangs as well. I traded in my model glue for computer profiles. No glue on the canopy this way 🙂
Looking at the images on the Corgi site, it appears the Blue Hurri is a different one then I did as it has the radio mast and I left it off mine based on the photo, but the gray Spit is definately mine. And that’s fine too. I know they were trying to get confirmation on the gray color and the lettering too. My effort was purely guess my best and it appears to have been what was used. I don’t know what other sources might have confirmed the colors.
I’ll end up with a Blue Hurri and Gray Spit out of the deal so it’s all good 🙂
Dan
By: BSteinIPMS - 10th February 2005 at 01:05
WOW! Had no idea folks could get worked up about a diecast Spit. As for Leviathan’s comment about the images being off a Decomaster sheets….The Spit is most definately mine. No doubt about it. And I did do the Blue Hurri as well. Once again, no big deal, just interesting 🙂
Dan
Dan,
Just out of curiosity, were your images copyrighted, or did you enter into some sort of agreement with the manufacturer or their representatives to allow them to use your artwork? Or do you feel their two diecast Club models (blue civil Hurri, gray civil Spit) were based on other references primarily? :confused:
–Bob Steinbrunn
By: Dan Johnson - 9th February 2005 at 03:12
Well, Daniel, for better or worse, you’re famous now! Your artwork has been carved in stone. 😀
http://www.diecast-aviation.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1071&page=1&pp=10
…and…
http://www.diecast-aviation.co.uk/html/corgi_club_model_2005.html–Bob Steinbrunn
WOW! Had no idea folks could get worked up about a diecast Spit. As for Leviathan’s comment about the images being off a Decomaster sheets….The Spit is most definately mine. No doubt about it. And I did do the Blue Hurri as well. Once again, no big deal, just interesting 🙂
Dan
By: BSteinIPMS - 9th February 2005 at 01:16
Wow! Another Minnesotan joins the crowd and a TCAH guy too 🙂 I need to get back to one of the meetings. It’s been a long time. The curse of working Saturdays I suppose.
Haven’t done any flying outside of computer fight sims in a while.
And where’s this minor tempest about the Spit? I was playing guess your best based on one photo 🙂
Dan
Well, Daniel, for better or worse, you’re famous now! Your artwork has been carved in stone. 😀
http://www.diecast-aviation.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1071&page=1&pp=10
…and…
http://www.diecast-aviation.co.uk/html/corgi_club_model_2005.html
–Bob Steinbrunn
By: Dan Johnson - 7th February 2005 at 18:57
Dan,
Long time, no see! Still flying?
Nice artwork, by the way. The prototype aircraft has been released by Corgi of England in 1/72 scale as their 2005 Aviation Archive Collectors Club model and it’s the subject of a minor tempest on another forum. Hope you don’t have to don your flak jacket on this one……hehehe. 😀
–Bob Steinbrunn
Wow! Another Minnesotan joins the crowd and a TCAH guy too 🙂 I need to get back to one of the meetings. It’s been a long time. The curse of working Saturdays I suppose.
Haven’t done any flying outside of computer fight sims in a while.
And where’s this minor tempest about the Spit? I was playing guess your best based on one photo 🙂
Dan
By: minter - 7th February 2005 at 15:18
yep and you,thought i would pop over and have a look and forgot i was already registered,big old site this, makes the other one look tiny :rolleyes:
By: BSteinIPMS - 7th February 2005 at 15:08
theres no getting away from this Bstien, thought there would be sanctuary in here,but like you say at least tempers arnt fraid here 😉
Hey, Minty, fancy seeing you here! 😀
By: minter - 7th February 2005 at 14:41
theres no getting away from this Bstien, thought there would be sanctuary in here,but like you say at least tempers arnt fraid here 😉
By: BSteinIPMS - 7th February 2005 at 14:20
Here’s two attempts based on the black and white photos. Seems like the second one is closer to the truth then the first.
Dan
Can’t remember who asked about them then
Dan,
Long time, no see! Still flying?
Nice artwork, by the way. The prototype aircraft has been released by Corgi of England in 1/72 scale as their 2005 Aviation Archive Collectors Club model and it’s the subject of a minor tempest on another forum. Hope you don’t have to don your flak jacket on this one……hehehe. 😀
–Bob Steinbrunn
By: Eddie - 4th February 2005 at 17:27
Are you sure you don’t mean “term for old anorak”? 😉
By: Mark12 - 4th February 2005 at 17:15
modern term for Anorak
right ?
Wrong.
Old term for Anorak.
Mark 🙂
By: Swiss Mustangs - 4th February 2005 at 13:52
modern term for Anorak
right ?
By: VoyTech - 4th February 2005 at 13:44
My English problems again. What do you all mean by “Geek”? Is it a reference to specific technical details in Spitfire parts?
By: Mark12 - 3rd February 2005 at 19:47
WHAT SORT OF TAILPLANE HAS IT GOT?.
AB910/G-AISU at this time was fitted with the later extended horn elevator.
The model has the earlier type.
Geek.
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 3rd February 2005 at 19:04
In reality it was PR.XI screen mated with an early Mk V ‘low front hoop’ canopy as fitted to the external armoured screen aircraft.
Geek.
By: C.N - 3rd February 2005 at 18:49
WHAT SORT OF TAILPLANE HAS IT GOT?.
By: Dan Johnson - 3rd February 2005 at 18:38
yeah, and you’d have thourght they’d have sent you a complementary model eh, seeing as you appear have been involved, even if unwittingly!!
no one seems to have a colour reference for it, so we may never know what colour it was at this stage of its life… CHC claim it was gray primer?
Neil.
I tracked down the e-mail. e-mails were dated last May. That was part of the deal. They’d send me the blue Hurri and gray Spit when they were done. I didn’t know the artwork would end up online:)
Guess I’ll have to watch the mail 🙂
I was doing it for fun though so no big deal either way. Kind of nice to see the stuff get used.
Dan
By: Guzzineil - 3rd February 2005 at 18:01
Can’t remember who it was, but someone from the Corgi Heritage Center sent me a scan of a black and white photo of the plane and I did the first one, but it seemed the color was darker so I did the second one with the darker gray.
Looking at the photo, my lettering is more, for lack of a better word, precise since I used a font to do the lettering and the other photo looks more hand painted.
Kinda cool to see it on the model though 🙂
Just looked around their site. Too funny. There’s my profile on the top of the page. Think that’s my blue Hurri too 🙂
Dan
yeah, and you’d have thourght they’d have sent you a complementary model eh, seeing as you appear have been involved, even if unwittingly!!
no one seems to have a colour reference for it, so we may never know what colour it was at this stage of its life… CHC claim it was gray primer?
Neil.
By: DazDaMan - 3rd February 2005 at 17:40
Dan – your profiles knock spots off anything I could attempt, anyway! 🙂