Spitfire incident at Goodwood (July 18 2018)

Maybe, just maybe the poor surface had been found to be poor after the incident?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c18c7e4ed915d0c42ad6a7f…

Looks like a landing accident, not a taxiing accident. It was said that the runway was in poor condition. Not sure why they were operating on such a surface.

I see SM520 flew yesterday who do ARCo think they are the civilian repair organisation?

In all honesty it wouldn’t surprise me! The 2 seaters get president on repairs with them being money makers so anything that could affect business needs to be rectified quickly! Did anyone actually see how stuffed it was?

If it can earn £12 K a day, that is pretty motivating !

So we went from having the gear ripped off, buggered mounts & knackered spars to flying again in two months?

… and again today at Duxford thanks to the hard work by the ARCo/HFL engineers .

SM520 / G-ILDA by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

Duxman
Flikr – https://www.flickr.com/photos/64209520@N05/

G-ILDA was flying at Duxford yesterday.

Ripping off both legs? Or them folding neatly into the wings.

Just a shame as it neatly folds up, as did Rolls Royces when they retracted the gear on the runway, the rest of it beats the crap out of itself. That picture above is minor compared the PS853’s damage. Though luckily they only had 5 blades to turn to matchsticks unlike the Daily Fails contra rotating version.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2258569/Flights-suspended-East-Midlands-airport-undercarriage-Spitfire-collapsed-landing.html

I believe, it’s pretty stuffed. Spars, gear, lower fuselage mounts etc. Suspect there is a mass collation of parts going on to try and speed up the repair.

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Anyone heard any more about this?

There was a recent mishap with a different warbird firm recently who imposed an immediate blackout on photos/reporting etc – I guess the same thing has happened here – any negative publicity with Spitfire Operator A might cause punters to pick Spitfire Operator B….

To me it simply looks like backside covering, and an attempt to circle the wagons. Maybe the problem is that aviation enthusiasts will always play armchair pilot and try and apply their own, usually faulty, analysis to a given situation?

These incidents are, surely, par for the course? These are the risks inherent in the design and age of these aircraft. If one of those Buchons doing the rounds happens to ground loop at some point during this airshow season, I won’t be too surprised. This is what Bf 109s did during active service, fairly frequently.

Pretty sure the press don’t read this forum. If they did, they might at least get some of their stories factually correct!

I’m pretty certain they do. This forum is quoted and referenced on other forums, and I recall one article following the Shoreham crash that cited individual forum posts by name. Journalists probably rely on the hive consensus of a forum, even if the conclusions are a bit wobbly.

I have got a flight booked with Boultbee confirmed for the end of September, and a wheels up landing would not put me off !

Quite understandable, but pretty optimistic to think you can ‘quarantene’ events these days.

Being on an airfield helps, as it is a contained environment.

There was a recent mishap with a different warbird firm recently who imposed an immediate blackout on photos/reporting etc – I guess the same thing has happened here – any negative publicity with Spitfire Operator A might cause punters to pick Spitfire Operator B….

“Pretty sure the press don’t read this forum. If they did, they might at least get some of their stories factually correct!”

Interestingly I’ve just looked at the forum members on line (btm front page) and we have a member; “dailymirror” I’m sure there’s no connection……..

Didn’t G-TRIX have pintle stud failure following landing at Goodwood some years ago.

In that case, the images will look a lot like this one: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Supermarine-509-Spitfire-T9C/1352635/L

Ripping off both legs? Or them folding neatly into the wings. I know of only one case where the former happened whilst taxying, which was down to substandard pintle studs. I *think* it was Mark Hanna; I know it was ML417, in France.

Its usually the legs coming off the locks for some reason.

A bit of fact massaging here I suspect. When does the high speed run out of the landing morph into taxiing ? Three seconds after touchdown, or when you get to 15mph ? Who can say. You need a lot of energy to bust off or bend the legs, and that would not be expected at conventional taxiing speeds.

The Facebook page probably has ongoing contact with the Spit operators, and may well have been asked to keep a lid on things.

Anyway, frustrating for the operators, vexing for the pilot, expensive for the insurers but not a big deal, as these two-seaters usually seem to jump back on their legs in short order. IF the reported fact are true, then SM520 joins the not very exclusive club of two-seat Spits which have ended up on their bellies, which is virtually all of them !

Given the intensity of operations, the known fragility of the U/C, perhaps a slightly more aft C of G in the twin-seaters, this sort of incident is to be expected once in a while.