May 3, 2007 at 11:23 am
‘Bruce’ has kindly drawn this to my attention.
Mark
http://www.provenancefightersales.com/vickers_spitfire_t8.htm
By: Mark V - 24th May 2007 at 21:04
Mark – it looks to me like the scheme has the same demarcations as the post war Seafire schemes, obviously with different colours though. As you have recent experience with Seafire schemes, would you agree with that? Obviously it will make life easier in future should the new owner decide to use that scheme if the drawings are available for it!
I see what you mean Eddie. Alas the drawings for the Seafire scheme are no longer available (unless anyone happens to have a copies 😮 ). The two recent Seafire schemes I was involved in were both derived from extensive and careful study of lots of period photos wth a bit of cross reference to late Spitfire schemes and a sprinkling of enthusiasm for the type (not to mention the collaboration with a well known Spitfire historian 😉 ). It was also apparant that there was a huge variation in the setting out of the upper surface Extra Dark Sea Grey to Sky demarcation line on the fuselage and wing join, virtually no two aircraft being identical.
By: Archer - 24th May 2007 at 14:14
Correct. On the Dutch register, safely in a hangar at Gilze Rijen Airbase and operated by the Dutch Airforce Historical Flight (www.skhv.nl – website in Dutch, click on ‘vliegtuigen’ in the main menu for pictures).
By: wieesso - 24th May 2007 at 14:09
Whats the status with the Silver Dutch Spit? (MK732?)
Isn’t she registered as PH-OUQ ?
By: SADSACK - 24th May 2007 at 13:29
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Whats the status with the Silver Dutch Spit? (MK732?)
Cant say I care for the yellow scheme either. Too dull.
By: markstringer - 24th May 2007 at 12:56
sadsack, i too have heard similar comments regarding spits such as the dutch example. personally, i couldn’t give a monkeys if had red bull plastered all over it, as far as i’m concerned its another spitfire in the uk air for all of us to enjoy! mind you that previous scheme does look sexy! not too sure on the yellow one mind…….
By: SADSACK - 24th May 2007 at 11:57
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I remember showing pics of the Dutch Spit to a freind, shortly after it was painted in its Dutch markings. Bear in mind this is a guy twice my age, ex forces with about 40 years of experiance including work with Sally B, not some 20 year old twit.
At Biggin Hill, enthusiasts were drooling, the sun was going down and the light fantastic, and the Spit looked fabulous. My freind however wrinknled his nose and scoffed that it should be in camoflauge. I pointed out these were its correct colours. He didnt care. All spits should be in camo as far as is concerned and I have heard similar comments along the crowd line.
By: Eddie - 22nd May 2007 at 22:09
Mark – it looks to me like the scheme has the same demarcations as the post war Seafire schemes, obviously with different colours though. As you have recent experience with Seafire schemes, would you agree with that? Obviously it will make life easier in future should the new owner decide to use that scheme if the drawings are available for it!
By: Mark V - 22nd May 2007 at 18:05
thats a lovely scheme. Bound to be objections but sod them.
Why would anyone object? – its a wonderful scheme and 100% authentic for that airframe
By: SADSACK - 22nd May 2007 at 15:54
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I always thought this scheme was rather attractive:)
thats a lovely scheme. Bound to be objections but sod them.
By: markstringer - 22nd May 2007 at 15:48
has peter monk bought it then?
By: Cees Broere - 22nd May 2007 at 15:28
Mark
So you bought it:dev2:
Cees
By: Mark12 - 22nd May 2007 at 14:56
Welcome home.
By: Ant.H - 22nd May 2007 at 14:51
She’s now listed as sold on the Provenance Fighters website. I wonder where she’s off to, homeward bound perhaps??
http://www.provenancefightersales.com/vickers_spitfire_t8.htm
By: wieesso - 20th May 2007 at 14:17
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=70525
Does anybody know the year the photo of G-AIDN in #7 was made?
Was it the 1948 Farnborough Air Show?
http://www.ml407.co.uk/pages/memarticles.html
edit.: Thanks Albert Ross it was Radlett 1947!
By: ALBERT ROSS - 15th May 2007 at 10:25
Well i hope she gets restored to her yellow N.32 colour scheme & not destroyed by another rotten camo job!!!!!!!!!!
Have fond memories of G-AIDN as this was the first Spitfire I ever saw flying in the early ’60s, owned and flown by John Fairey. Would love to see her return and restored in the overall light blue scheme and registered G-AIDN.
This was also the first aircraft I did an air-to-air photo shoot with….watch the mags for the pics! You can see one of them on the link LAHARVE posted.
By: Eddie - 15th May 2007 at 01:14
Good question. I can’t see why not, as Vickers Armstrong aren’t using those codes any more! Perhaps someone more current on the UK requirements might care to comment on this?
I managed to find this:
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=123&pagetype=90&pageid=136
In certain cases exemptions to Article 5 are granted for aircraft to fly without bearing UK nationality and registration marks. The CAA Aircraft Registration section policy is only to exempt aircraft which display historically accurate military liveries and marks. The exemption is usually issued for a period of three years and should be renewed on expiry if the aircraft is to remain in those markings
It seems like it depends on how much leeway there is at the CAA on this issue – strictly speaking I have my doubts if it could be considered a military scheme, however it would seem to be within the spirit of the exemption.
By: stuart gowans - 14th May 2007 at 15:22
The main problem with yellow would be that the Spitfire would be difficult to spot among all those yellow Tiger Moths…
And all those important types with their hiviz vests on…
By: Arm Waver - 14th May 2007 at 14:57
I would think that the dispensation could be gained as isn’t there a Messenger that is due to fly in her old Class B markings at some point?
By: VoyTech - 14th May 2007 at 14:24
The main problem with yellow would be that the Spitfire would be difficult to spot among all those yellow Tiger Moths…
By: Mark12 - 14th May 2007 at 14:20
Could the exemption used to allow warbirds to fly in military schemes extend to allow this Spitfire fly as “N.32” in the future?
Well I do not know about the UK, but it certainly wouldn’t fly in the US like that as this shot ‘N’H749 shows. 🙂
Mark
