Spitfire P8727 G-AHZI "Josephine"

Thanks Sopwith and I suspect Avion Ancien has got it about right. The one positive thing about the lack of decent threads is that I no longer spend 2 or 3 hours a day on this forum, time which I should have been using to do other things. 

I suspect that the only way we’re going to get decent threads, like this one, on this forum is by initiating them!

Sorry to hear of your loss WJ244. I am pleased that this thread motivated you to contribute again, it’s appreciated, thank you.

 I must admit I haven’t contributed to a thread in months  partly because I was one of the victims of a particular nasty troll and also because I have had a lot to do after my partner passed away back in January. She had been unwell for a long time but her passing was very unexpected.
 Unfortunately the forum isn’t anything like as good as it used to be but I knew I had seen a photo of
G-AHZI somewhere which was what motivated me to help out on this one. Maybe there will be more decent threads where I can make a contribution in the future.    

Wonderful thread guys 😀 Exactly why a forum is great. 

Thanks WJ244, that’s great what information  is turning up.

Also thanks avion ancien re PM.

There is also another photo here

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/spitfire-ahzi-ex-p8727-250567506

History here says crashed on take off Kastrup and the wreck went to Copenhagen Aero Engineering Technical College on 15 April 1947 so it is possible that parts may survive.

https://fdocuments.net/document/vickers-supermarine-spitfire-seafire.html?page=1

I also found a thread on Britmodeller about ASR Spitfires which suggested that at some point P8727 was converted from a MKV to a MKIIC which seems a bit strange.  

I’ve sent you a PM, Sopwith.

There is an old thread here which includes the picture below.

https://www.key.aero/forum/historic-aviation/38374-spitfire-mk-iib-g-azhi   

Thank you Spiteful and bazv, that’s some great information, especially the link to the photographs.

Thank you, Spiteful and bazv. I’ve learnt something today. I’m glad that you could read that which I could not in the manuscript entry in the CAA records!

Noting that the crash of G-AHZI occurred at Copenhagen, I wonder if Bramson was flying there on family business? Whilst by 1947 his mother had relocated to France, presumably his father still resided in the country (he died there in 1952).

Mogens Louis Bramson ?

From Wiki

Bramson and her husband had one son, Mogens Louis Bramson After 1914, she lived apart from her husband, but had a friendly relationship with him throughout her life. She adored her son Mogens, who was a pilot  and aviation engineering consultant. Mogens Bramson lived much of his life in England and played a crucial role in helping Frank Whittle  develop the world’s first Jet Engine –  Later in his life, Mogens moved to California, USA where he invented a Heart Lung Machine.

Mogens L. Bramson was instrumental in the development of jet aircraft engine, the heart-lung machine, and much more. He developed the Heart Lung machine while working at Hallikainen Instruments. Around the office, he was known as “Bram.”

Found here – M. L. Bramson (hallikainen.org)

Pictures of the Spitfire are in the gallery:

044 (hallikainen.org)

051 (hallikainen.org)

Has anyone deciphered the manuscript record of the registered owner’s name in the CAA records?The middle name appears to be Louis. Is the forename Morgan – or even Imogen – or something else?

Sorry that should read M L Bramson, spellchecker’s fault and couldn’t edit my post.

Yes that is what I find fascinating about her avion ancien, there is so little out there and M L Branson is a bit of an enigma too.

She seems to have been a real ‘net slipper’. The Air-Britain British Civil Aircraft Registers 1919 to 1999 says only that she crashed at Copenhagen on 14.4.47 and her registration was cancelled. Jackson’s British Civil Aircraft 1919 – 1972 doesn’t even mention her existence! I’m surprised that the spitfire boys have not come up with something about her short civilian career.

Thanks Oracal, I’ve already looked at that and it just states damaged beyond repair, 25/8/47, letter from owner. No further details of where though, but thank you for the thought.

Have a search on https://www.caa.co.uk/aircraft-register/g-info/search-g-info/. You will learn a little more of its demise there, but no image.