Spitfire RM689 Crash On Internet

Correct me if I am wrong but you can report videos to youtube can you not?

There is a way to flag the video as inappropriate, afterwards the content is reviewed by YouTube and the viewing options are changed.

Unfortunately it is a fact of life. Episodes like this happen and, if they have been recorded, will probably be shown. Not looking at the shots won’t make it not happen or go away – perhaps I’m cold and clinical, but I see no offense in these clips. I realise they show tragedy and have seen clips involving people I have known and liked, but seeing clips of their demise doesn’t leave me fuming to remove all evidence that the event ever happened. – it just leaves me feeling sad.

[QUOTE=duxfordhawk;1246424]I am suprised to hear that as i thought most companies avoided showing the accidents on Video releases, Poor show on that company i think.

The video was the official airshow one and the crash is seperate from the full program and you are given a warning before it is shown.There is also room at the start and end so you can wipe it off without ruining the whole video.
I too have watched it as I was a witness to the event and it helped me understand what I saw, not too nice to watch though and I havn’t seen it for years, no wish to either.

Phill
www.outflankeduk.com

Correct me if I am wrong but you can report videos to youtube can you not?

Feel this a statement of the blindingly obvious but if you will be offended by images of thiis type do not go searching for them and do not view them……..seems simple to me. Think unlikely you will just stumble across them.

Planemike

True to some extent, although you don’t actually have to be looking for the clip specifically to find the links to it. Type “Spitfire” into youtube’s search facility and the RM689 crash comes up again and again.

I did, and to be honest, I got through 4 or so pages before I found it. Mostly the Spitfire searches I got were RC models, air displays, Flight Simulator sequences and some band called the Prodigy (they’ve crashed too I believe).

At the end of the day, when you go onto these things, it usually gives a description of what it is. If you think you may be offended, you have a choice to turn it off – same as on TV.

I wholeheartedly agree that it is sad that people take pleasure of other people’s demise, especially through mediums that portray it as entertainment, but as has been commented on, what about war footage or more recently, the twin towers? I can think of a couple of war documentaries that show dead bodies.

Perhaps it is better to be a bit more discerning if people are offended – it isn’t too hard to avoid the tasteless on YouTube….

The RM689 crash is on the commercially released video of Woodford airshow (I know – I have it), so it’s hardly suprising that it ended up on Youtube…

I am suprised to hear that as i thought most companies avoided showing the accidents on Video releases, Poor show on that company i think.

As to You tube it seems to me to be the latest way to show anything sick or gory, And sadly in this day and age we have wall to wall news networks and everybody pretty much has some sort of camera so things like this will just become more common.

It does make me wonder if many of the watchers have really experienced the horror of such a accident first hand, I think some may feel differently if they had, I could justify somebody who has witnessed such a event watching it on TV etc as i have done this mostly to try and understand in my mind what i saw and deal with it, Having sadly witnessed 5 fatal accidents i can say it gets to you at times.

I am afraid it is human nature,always has been ,it was just done differently.
Today you have the internet and almost instant news coverage.In years gone by you had people turning up for public hangings,torture,witch ducking/drowning,even Gladiatorial type fights to the death.
As was said humans are a strange lot.Personally i think alot of it is down to how close you feel to that particular incident/person involved.
It’s not nice but i don’t suppose you will stop it.

The RM689 crash is on the commercially released video of Woodford airshow (I know – I have it), so it’s hardly suprising that it ended up on Youtube…

…the media are cold and heartless.

Not really, it’s called news.
At least they don’t rebroadcast it forever as entertainment like those folks on YouTube.

Re: 9/11…when that occurred I was working in television news. Within 36 hours we were told NOT to use the video of the aircraft impacting the towers.
If we did a story that referred to the the events we were to use only aftermath footage. Even today in news programs (at least in the U.S.) you rarely see the impact of the jets…if they show an aircarft, the fade to black before the impact.

If you want to gripe about you tube/internet, how about the holiday photo taken by a Hungarian of him posing on the WTC observation deck, to which he added a head-on shot of an AA757? and posted as shots found in a camera in the wreckage? Or the still shot from the first episode of the TV series “Lost” showing the cabin of a jet with the tail section separating which was then posted as supposedly showing the Brazilian 737 coming apart after its mid-air? Those peope are sick, not the news people.

Of if you want to think about families, how many times have we seen the old newsreel in documentaries of that U.S. soldier falling on Omaha Beach?
I know, the soldiers face isn’t shown, but a lot of famies lost sons/brothers/fathers that day, I wonder how many think
“…that might be him”?
Same thing for shots of B-17 falling in 12 O’Clock High…for the F-100 crash used in The Hunters and X-15?

There’s a lot of disturbing stuff out there. At least on YouTube you don’t find it unless you look for it.

I was one of the minority of people watching the Spitfire display as most of the other people were looking at the stalls and the static and was taking pictures as it went into the loop and as it came out of the loop and got it as it hit and the aftermath of the tragedy. then suddenly as the smoke rose from it everyone wanted a gorp at the wreckage. The commentator called them “ghouls” and he was right. I destroyed all pictures of the spitfire after sending some to the AAIB after a request for evidence.

The last thing I want to see is a crash where someone lost their life and even if they didn’t i still don’t want to see it!

unfortunately the same thing happens every day when there is an accident on the motorway.

So seeing the video on you tube is, yes, very shocking but in a day and age where things like this have become a spectator sport and are immune to the suffering of the poor person that the tragedy has befallen.

We live in strange times that is for sure!

Has anybody noticed the advertising currently at the head of this Historic Aviation forum?

EXTREMELY GOOD POINT WELL PRESENTED!
I have always thought it in bad taste to have such ads on this forum.

As for the video footage of RM689, I wouldn’t have known about it if it wasn’t posted here. If it offends, best not mention it. I haven’t seen it and hope never to.

P.S hope not to intimidate anyone with the use of capitals

Has anybody noticed the advertising currently at the head of this Historic Aviation forum?

though i didnt say id seen it in the news …

I wonder how many relatives of the Twin Towers deceased spend their lives seeing the repeats of it. Sadly with all these events – they happened – the Woodford crash hasn’t been in the news for years . Look for anything airshow related on the internet and there is a chance of seeing something you might feel unsavoury.

Surely if you’re all so offended by crashes on you tube, then the answer must be DON’T LOOK FOR THEM!!!

True to some extent, although you don’t actually have to be looking for the clip specifically to find the links to it. Type “Spitfire” into youtube’s search facility and the RM689 crash comes up again and again.

Surely if you’re all so offended by crashes on you tube, then the answer must be DON’T LOOK FOR THEM!!!

Ive seen the spitfire crash on television more than twice as im sure many people have, the media are cold and heartless. the reason behind looking for the mosquito, id never seen one fly for real, mosquito, consequently, i looked up “mosquito display” on youtube, found a video that had no mention of the crash in its title, though the video was just that. I was a bit shocked to see what happened.

This isnt the first time eddywinch has bought up the subject of RM689 so he may have a personal tie to the accident, justifying his offence at the video being posted on youtube

I know capital letters are intimidating, i dont think that now is a good time to use them, certainly may cause the younger of us to shed a tear :p

Surely if you’re all so offended by crashes on you tube, then the answer must be DON’T LOOK FOR THEM!!!

What really pi**es me off are these people who compile videos of the “best” crashes, put them to music and post them up on YouTube – and the people who comment on them. “Woah, awesome work, dude!” What’s really awesome about possibly seeing someone’s life being taken away? Not a hell of a lot if you ask me…!

the ones with bloody ridiculous songs that you would expect to hear backing a slapstick comedy!!! a bit idiotic

people just dont treat them as such 🙁

What really pi**es me off are these people who compile videos of the “best” crashes, put them to music and post them up on YouTube – and the people who comment on them. “Woah, awesome work, dude!” What’s really awesome about possibly seeing someone’s life being taken away? Not a hell of a lot if you ask me…!