November 24, 2005 at 7:25 pm
Hello Guys,
I’m gathering info about the Spitfire. Of course a lot can be found at several places, but I can not find the minimum lenght of runway that is required to take off and land a spitfire.
Does someone have this info about Spitfire MKI, MKII, MKV, MKVIII and MKIX.
Greets,
Stieglitz
By: sycamore - 26th November 2005 at 13:08
Philip Rhodes, ref Meatbox; it would be very imprudent to try and operate-safely, off anything less than 5-5500 ft of hard runway, particularly today,in terms of performance,risk etc.6000 ft would be better,as Meteors have pneumatic brakes ,which tend to fade easily,don`t have anti-skid,and spares are difficult to get.Even J-Provosts/L-29,L-39 s are operated off a minimum of 1500m. Syc……..
By: Melvyn Hiscock - 25th November 2005 at 22:56
A Legends full aero’s display with full wings (50 galls= 50 lbs-ish)
Mmmm, decimal point moved there a bit. More like 300 lbs. Isn’t it about 6 lbs a gallon for fuel?
By: Stieglitz - 25th November 2005 at 18:59
Great link Guzzineil! I’ll get bored now … 😀
Thanks a lot!
Stieglitz
By: Guzzineil - 25th November 2005 at 17:37
theres lots of Spitfire data to astound/bore your friends with here… :rolleyes:
http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spittest.html
Neil
By: Phillip Rhodes - 25th November 2005 at 17:01
Meteor Runway runway info please?
Okay, can anyone tell me if it is safe to operate a Meteor (F8 or T7) from a 4,000ft hard runway?
By: Chipmunk Carol - 25th November 2005 at 16:00
Don’t forget the take-off run is affected by:
ground surface condition (long wet grass needs a longer run than dry tarmac)
wind (a take-off into a strong wind is shorter than nil wind or a cross wind)
temperature (a hot day requires a longer run)
slope (uphill = longer)
By: DazDaMan - 25th November 2005 at 13:55
Why would they not carry a full tank of fuel???????? Some even have extra fuel tanks in the gunbays…..
I was assuming for local flights – there are all kinds of variables for this topic.
By: ollieholmes - 25th November 2005 at 13:53
Depends on the operator and how far they are going and how long they are flying for i suppose.
By: Yak 11 Fan - 25th November 2005 at 13:47
Why would they not carry a full tank of fuel???????? Some even have extra fuel tanks in the gunbays…..
By: ollieholmes - 25th November 2005 at 13:31
True i didnt think about fuel and ammo etc.
Safety gear, Extinguisher system maybe? backup radio.
I dont know about radios either realy as ive never looked into them.
Okay i guess they are lighter now.
By: DazDaMan - 25th November 2005 at 12:59
But then they carry modern radios and saftey gear which then adds to the weight. And then the person (must stay politicaly correct) flying it.
Modern radios – presumably smaller, hence lighter? I’ve no idea, having never had cause to inspect one fitted to a Spit. I just like to look at the cover 😉
Modern safety gear – such as? :confused:
But, again, Spits these days are probably lighter since they don’t carry weapons stores or a full tank of fuel…?
By: ollieholmes - 25th November 2005 at 12:33
Maybe with a good steam catapult, a contra rotating prop, and a ski jump it may get 50 yards. The one at the shuttleworth collection gets airbourne fairly fast. But compared to most things they fly it is a very long run.
By: ollieholmes - 25th November 2005 at 12:31
But then they carry modern radios and saftey gear which then adds to the weight. And then the person (must stay politicaly correct) flying it.
By: DazDaMan - 25th November 2005 at 12:24
I would imagine that, since most Spits these days fly without guns, which are pretty weighty, then it would be a slightly shorter distance.
However, there was some discussion a while back (originated by me) as to whether a Spit could get off in fifty yards. Here’s the link:
By: ollieholmes - 25th November 2005 at 12:13
I would imagine as i said the modern distance may be different as they are proberably lighter or even heavier with the de millitrisation and fitting of modern radios etc that they require.
By: Stieglitz - 25th November 2005 at 11:12
Thanks Ollie and Daz.
This is a good start. I shall contact some operators for further info.
Cheers,
Stieglitz
By: DazDaMan - 24th November 2005 at 20:37
Hello Guys,
I’m gathering info about the Spitfire. Of course a lot can be found at several places, but I can not find the minimum lenght of runway that is required to take off and land a spitfire.
Does someone have this info about Spitfire MKI, MKII, MKV, MKVIII and MKIX.
Greets,
Stieglitz
Stieg.
From The Spitfire Story (Alfred Price), for the first production Spitfire MkI, K9787:
Take-off run (zero wind) – 420yds
Distance to clear 50ft screen – 720yds
Landing run (with brakes) – 380yds
Spitfire MkI K9793 – 7th production Spitfire fitted with the de Havilland 3-blade, two-pitch metal airscrew:
Take-off run (zero wind) – 320yds
Distance to clear 50ft screen – 490yds
Landing run (with brakes) – 235yds
Spitfire IIa – first production machine built at Castle Bromwich:
Take-off run – 230yds (although this does not state if it was in zero wind!)
Distance to clear 50ft screen – 400yds
Landing run – 350yds
I’d look into Spitfire – The History for you, but I need to do something else! Sorry! 😮
Hope this helps, anyway.
By: ollieholmes - 24th November 2005 at 20:27
Contact anyone that opperates a Spitfire, they may be able to help. But i would guess that their examples take off distance may be shorter than in ww11.