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Spitfire Serial Query.

I am researching Sgt – Flt Lt Norman Taylor DFM DFC flying career, he flew with 601 Sqn until mid 1941 when he joined the MSFU.

According to his log book he first flew a Spitfire in May 1941 but the serials don’t quite match up to Spitfire the History, can anyone (Mark 12 !!!) throw any light on these.

May 1 Spitfire Z8363 Brize Norton to Gravesend to 74 Sqn
May 9 Spitfire P3080 Cosford – Kidlington – Gravesend to 74 Sqn
May 11 Spitfire P8259 Lyneham – Gravesend
May 18 Spitfire P7562 Brize Norton – Southend

Taylor was still with 601 Sqn at this time, who were still operating Hurricanes, however it apprears the he was doing some ferry work for another unit.

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By: EN830 - 7th September 2004 at 10:47

On a second thought, it wouldn’t. There wasn’t a Spitfire no. N3080. 🙁

I think he got his Spitfires mixed up with his Hurricanes !!!!

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By: VoyTech - 7th September 2004 at 10:46

That would explain it.

On a second thought, it wouldn’t. There wasn’t a Spitfire no. N3080. 🙁

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By: EN830 - 6th September 2004 at 13:16

Thanks VoyTech

That would explain it.

Thanks

Ian.

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By: VoyTech - 6th September 2004 at 13:13

Ian,
You don’t have to disbelieve what has been written.
It was very often that pilot’s log books included just the numerical part of the serial, preceded by the aircraft’s code letter. This becomes quite obvious with the later serials that only had three didigits, while with the early ones it can be quite misleading.
“Z8363” might in fact be P8363 with a unit code **-Z (you would have to check the previous unit, before 74 Sqn).
Similarly, “P3080” looks like Mk I N3080 **-P.
The other ones may have been entered as they were, in absence of any codes, unless of course both were coded **-P.

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By: EN830 - 6th September 2004 at 12:17

Thanks Mark 12

Just goes to show you can’t always believe what is written down.

Taylor spent a short time delivering aircraft with No.1 Aircraft Delivery Flight, so that would account for him flying Spitfires whle 601 were still flying Hurricanes. I’m fairly sure he didn’t fly any Wellingtons or twin engined jobs until he joined Rolls Royce as a test pilot in 1943. I think this is an entry error on his behalf and should have read P and not Z.

Thanks again this is a great help.

Is there a definitive list like Spitfire the History but for Hurricanes ?

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By: Mark12 - 6th September 2004 at 09:33

Log book errors?

Ian

Z8363 is a Wellington I believe, but P8363 would be a Spitfire, a 74 Sqd. aircraft lost to a Flying Battle on 16 May 1941.

P3080 is a Hurricane

P8259 a Spitfire with 74 Sqd. from 12 May 1941

P7562 a Spitfire but no service with 74 or 601 Sqds circa 1941.

74 Sqd based Manston/Gravesend April/May 1941.

601 Sqd Based Northolt & Manston May 1941.

May be a shuffle of aircraft between units.

Does this help?

Mark

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By: EN830 - 6th September 2004 at 08:48

Just bumping this back up the threads, in the hope that someone can help.

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