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Spitfire TP364

A neighbour has recently given me a photo album that was retrieved from a skip following the death of a former RAF pilot (or his widow) and a subsequent house-clearance. His name was Bingham-Dore.

Among the many interesting photos was this one showing Spitfire XVIII TP364 up on its nose. The inscription to the reverse is ‘RAF Fayid 19 March 1947’.

This aircraft seems to have been SOC on 10 December 1951, but I wonder if anyone knows the story to the episode in this photograph? Or if Bingham-Dore was the pilot?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 11th April 2016 at 23:40

Thank you for that bit of extra information!

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By: vampiredave - 11th April 2016 at 20:21

“This was one of 2 from 32 squadron destroyed on the ground in May 1948 by the Egyptian attack on Ramat David. “

Correct – those destroyed in the attack of 22 May 1948 were TP336, TP364, TP443 and TP446 of 32 Squadron, and TP450 of 208 Squadron, which was categorised as “damaged”

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By: Thunderbird167 - 11th April 2016 at 18:33

Thanks Paul!

In view of the fact that it seems to have been SOC some two or three years later I suspect that it was possibly just minor damage repaired on unit.

This was one of 2 from 32 squadron destroyed on the ground in May 1948 by the Egyptian attack on Ramat David. The SOC date is probably just a bit of tidying up

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By: Arabella-Cox - 11th April 2016 at 17:53

Thanks Paul!

In view of the fact that it seems to have been SOC some two or three years later I suspect that it was possibly just minor damage repaired on unit.

And to reply to Seafire – no more Spitfires yet. Plenty of Mossies and Meteors, and a couple of Sea Furies.

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By: paulmcmillan - 11th April 2016 at 14:33

PS Nothing for this aircraft in Final Landings by Colin Cummings for 1946 to 1949

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By: paulmcmillan - 11th April 2016 at 14:25

Obit here

http://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/files/about/annual-report-2010.pdf

Page 97

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By: paulmcmillan - 11th April 2016 at 14:22

John Bingham Whitehorn Dore (193378)

Apparently he died in 2009

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By: snafu - 11th April 2016 at 14:08

Rather like Genesis fans disregarding anything after Peter Gabriels departure :highly_amused:

So from Spitfire to skip again…?;o)

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By: Graeme Halliday - 11th April 2016 at 13:00

More likely ‘The battle of Epping forest’

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By: D1566 - 11th April 2016 at 12:54

In my book it is perfectly acceptable to like the XVIII, however I would like to point out that it is really better looking with the original XIV rudder. More analogous to the Genesis situation…

So you are saying it is a Trick of the Tail? 😀

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By: The Bump - 11th April 2016 at 12:44

The low back Griffon engined Spitfires really are attractive – more so IMHO than the low back Merlin XVI. I think the lines of the Griffon nose really suit the low back versions.

I couldn’t agree more.

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By: Malcolm McKay - 11th April 2016 at 11:56

The low back Griffon engined Spitfires really are attractive – more so IMHO than the low back Merlin XVI. I think the lines of the Griffon nose really suit the low back versions.

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By: Seafire - 11th April 2016 at 11:54

Meanwhile, back to TP364….!

One post about a Spitfire. And at least eleven about skips/dumpsters.

Nor did you answer the question, Andy- any more good pics where that came from?

Now, Mr Bump, there’s a world of difference between Merlin or Griffon and Gabriel or Collins! In my book it is perfectly acceptable to like the XVIII, however I would like to point out that it is really better looking with the original XIV rudder. More analogous to the Genesis situation…

At least I didn’t mention a skip. Whoops!

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By: The Bump - 11th April 2016 at 11:42

It is great to see all this love for the MKXVIII Spitfire, I was admiring her beauty in Andy’s photo but was too scared to vocalise it because i thought it was illegal to like any Spitfire past a V ,IX and certainly not a Griffon.
Rather like Genesis fans disregarding anything after Peter Gabriels departure :highly_amused:

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By: Malcolm McKay - 11th April 2016 at 10:32

Back on topic I echo an earlier comment that the MkXVIII is a very pretty aircraft. One thing I can add is that a few years back Lucas suggested a camo scheme for certain ME MkXVIIIs used in Palestine (I realise that it isn’t in Palestine) of slate grey/dark earth. That one doesn’t appear to have that as the contrasts are quite apparent. The examples he depicted had a much less contrasting colour scheme. I went so far as to build a model of a MkXVIII (a modified low back Academy MkXIV) in that suggested scheme. Correct or not it is actually rather attractive. Hardly to do with real aircraft I agree but that’s why I found the pic interesting.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 11th April 2016 at 09:09

Meanwhile, back to TP364….!

One post about a Spitfire. And at least eleven about skips/dumpsters. :apologetic:

Ho-hum.

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By: Malcolm McKay - 11th April 2016 at 04:11

That is a skip, in traditional use as a site for everyone in the neighbourhood to make use of it before the hirer has chance to make use of his/her receptacle.

A problem not uncommon world wide – I had some major clearing out to do a few years back and hired a skip. It was amazing that after a day or so I discovered stuff in it that not only could I not recall ever owning let alone throwing out. :rolleyes:

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By: AVI - 10th April 2016 at 23:58

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That is a skip, in traditional use as a site for everyone in the neighbourhood to make use of it before the hirer has chance to make use of his/her receptacle.
Usually they do not have a lid, which means that ‘bums’ and drunks do not usually find accommodation in that rarely found species in the modern city, the empty skip.

But if you look you may find others serving as boats, customised cars, table tennis courts, miniature gardens , skate parks, etc…
http://theverybesttop10.com/repurposed-refuse-skips/

That’s not even close to a dumpster!
Of course, we’re a much bigger country … so everything is SuperSized. 🙂

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By: snafu - 10th April 2016 at 23:44

What’s a “skip”? A dumpster?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]245231[/ATTACH]

That is a skip, in traditional use as a site for everyone in the neighbourhood to make use of it before the hirer has chance to make use of his/her receptacle.
Usually they do not have a lid, which means that ‘bums’ and drunks do not usually find accommodation in that rarely found species in the modern city, the empty skip.

But if you look you may find others serving as boats, customised cars, table tennis courts, miniature gardens , skate parks, etc…
http://theverybesttop10.com/repurposed-refuse-skips/

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By: SADSACK - 10th April 2016 at 23:33

Yes she is a sexy looking variant

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