July 20, 2004 at 5:47 pm
The enclosed image is one of twenty-five individual remarques of Robert Taylor’s recent print: “Malta – George Cross”.
Somewhat puzzled by the American markings I made some enquiries with the publishers, The Military Gallery, not recalling much US (aviation) imput in the Malta saga. The answer, “…..the American Air Force were based in and around Italy throughout the war…..” did little to allay that in view of the fact that most of the “excitement” was over in Malta by the end of 1942 and the invasion of Sicily/Italy took place July’43/September’43. …..Well that was “in”; quite where US Spitfires were “around” before that I don’t know.
Anyway, I’m not being pedantic, just wondering whether any experts out there can place this particular aircraft/unit/location. …..Robert Taylor is well known for his research and I’m quite sure it’s relevant; just curious to know in what respect.
Thanks, in anticipation.
By: "1stThings1st" - 23rd July 2004 at 15:38
DazDaMan…..
Ah…………..yes, ta: Sicily.
By: DazDaMan - 23rd July 2004 at 15:32
I KNEW it had a 6 in it somewhere! 😉 Cheers Voytech!
By: VoyTech - 23rd July 2004 at 15:26
Argh, those two RAF Squadron IDs and codes are driving me nuts. Something tells me it was 65 Squadron and….92 Squadron? (Both wearing the codes ‘QJ’??)
Ah, you meant nos. 92 and 616 both using QJ during the Battle of Britain. QJ was no. 616’s pre-war code (GR being 92’s), but for some reason 616 continued to use them well into the war. Some nice pictures of 616’s Spitfires are usually captioned as ‘no. 92 Sqn Spitfires’.
By: DazDaMan - 23rd July 2004 at 15:24
Another 31st FG Spitfire
By: DazDaMan - 23rd July 2004 at 15:18
Argh, those two RAF Squadron IDs and codes are driving me nuts. Something tells me it was 65 Squadron and….92 Squadron? (Both wearing the codes ‘QJ’??)
By: DazDaMan - 23rd July 2004 at 15:17
Argh, those two RAF Squadron IDs and codes are driving me nuts. Something tells me it was 65 Squadron and….
By: VoyTech - 23rd July 2004 at 15:12
Maybe they just had the same codes? That occasionally happened in wartime. I’m sure two RAF Squadrons flew with the same codes at one point (the exact two escape me, although they both operated Spitfires at the time in question).
ZF codes were used at the same time on Spitfires of no. 308 (Polish) Sqn in Europe and no. 549 in Australia.
By: DazDaMan - 23rd July 2004 at 14:02
Maybe they just had the same codes? That occasionally happened in wartime. I’m sure two RAF Squadrons flew with the same codes at one point (the exact two escape me, although they both operated Spitfires at the time in question).
By: planejunky - 23rd July 2004 at 13:49
Just curious.
I noticed that the 31st FG used the codes WZ, HL, and MX. Aren’t those Duxford 78th FG codes? I presume that it didn’t matter too much as the 31st were operating outside the ETO.
By: DazDaMan - 23rd July 2004 at 13:12
See my first answer 😉
By: "1stThings1st" - 23rd July 2004 at 12:35
Andy in Beds…..
DazDaMan …..
One last question.
MX-F: Same picture, two different books. Is there any mention in either as to where the photo was taken?
Thanks, yet again.
By: "1stThings1st" - 22nd July 2004 at 10:21
Andy in Beds…..
Thanks.
By: Andy in Beds - 22nd July 2004 at 09:27
Spitfire MX-F
1T1
as promissed here are the pictures from page 100.
Spitfire MX-D and Lt Ron Brown.
All the best
Andy
By: "1stThings1st" - 21st July 2004 at 22:58
Andy in Beds…..
Of course; ta.
By: Andy in Beds - 21st July 2004 at 22:54
1T1
yes no problem but could you wait until tomorrow?
It’s beddy byes time in the AIB household.
Speak tomorrow
Andy 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
By: "1stThings1st" - 21st July 2004 at 22:47
Andy in Beds…..
? Any chance of scanning those items, if I ask you nicely!
When I say I’ve “just found it”, I mean web reference and graphic so far, not a personal copy.
Thanks.
By: Andy in Beds - 21st July 2004 at 22:40
Spitfire MX-F
1T1
yes that’s the kiddy.
There’s a picture of MX-F at the top of page 100 and next to it is a picture of Lt Ron Brown who was the aircraft’s regular pilot.
Hope this helps
Andy
By: "1stThings1st" - 21st July 2004 at 22:04
Andy in Beds…..
Thanks for that; just found it. Will take a look.
By: Andy in Beds - 21st July 2004 at 21:00
31st F.G.
1T1
If you’re interested in the 31st Fighter Group there’s a very good history of the group published under the title ‘In a Now Forgotten Sky’ by Dennis Kucera.
Published by Flying Machines Press 1997.
It’s got loads of info on the group’s Spitfire period and also it’s later P-51 and earlier P-39 history
I’m not certain the book’s still in print but it shouldn’t be too difficult to find.
Hope this is of interest.
All the best
Andy
By: "1stThings1st" - 21st July 2004 at 20:19
DazDaMan…..
Thanks; much appreciated.