December 17, 2003 at 10:27 pm
I have been looking around for Sports Aerobatic planes around the net, some are single seats and others are double seats.
What are some generally good Aerobatic Planes around? I’ve been looking at the Su-31M and I am impressed that it only costs 190 000USD and been looking at some Slingsby Fireflies(flew in one already)
What are some generally good sports planes out there, and I take into consideration cost, g limits, speed, maintenance etc.
Might be purchasing one in the future and I wouldnt mind buying it anywhere from the world.
By: neal h - 13th January 2004 at 18:30
There is a single seat Pitts S1-C for sale on www.barnstormers.com based in Bedford UK. Click aerobatic and then Pitts. Its on page one of the Pitts adds.
Great little aircraft.
Neal
By: wannabe pilot - 8th January 2004 at 23:41
Here’s the lil’ baby!
By: wannabe pilot - 8th January 2004 at 23:29
I’m a member of the Air Training Corps (ATC) and we get to fly the Grob G.115 Tutor. It looks quite tame at first, but not when it’s put in the hands of an ex. Harrier or Tornado Pilot! When I first flew in it, the pilot asked what I would like to do, and I simply asked for aerobatcis, hoping for maybe a loop or two. He took us upto 5000ft, and didn’t stop thereafter for about 15 minutes! It was the best flight I’d ever had, absolutely brilliant. We would just be pulling out of a loop, then straight back up again for a stall turn, then down for a barrel-roll. On the way back, I’d noticed on the g-meter that we had reached +4/-1.5. And that was with a cadet! If you really put that aircraft to the test, Im sure it would be very capable of anything higher. However, as they are supplied to the RAF for air training purposes, I’m not sure if you can buy them for the GA market. Have a look and find out if I were you.
By: Gerry can - 2nd January 2004 at 12:18
Runway09
Rumour has it that the Goldair Sukhoi was flying all last year with out an exemption to operate on a russian reg. That is all I know really but a work colleague has informed me that it was placed on the UK register in November. Hope this helps. I’m sure if I was flying my PA-28 without certification the CAA would be down on me like a ton of bricks. mmmm….. I wonder if the CAA have worked that one out yet
Gerry can:confused:
By: mixtec - 30th December 2003 at 03:42
srbin- I noticed its your birthday today, your 17. And you want to buy a Su-31 at age 17?
By: runway09 - 28th December 2003 at 11:39
Gerry Can
I also heard that there was a SU 26 flying illegally Do you or anyone else have anything on this?
By: Yak 11 Fan - 27th December 2003 at 22:03
What about the Lazer Z200, lovely little sporting aerobatic aircraft, only a single seater however.
By: yak139 - 26th December 2003 at 12:13
GC doesnt Tom own a T67M, G-SKYC?
And Im sure he will tell you how good it is.
By: Gerry can - 24th December 2003 at 12:44
I should steer clear of 2 seat Sukhoi’s as they are never likely to be certified in the UK. The Mattandors had to sell their 2 seat for that reason. All SU 26 have to go through UK certification before they can fly legally in the UK, which makes you wonder how the Alpina / Goldair one was flown at airshows this year only showing a russian reg ‘ Illegally perhaps’!!!
The Edge 540 is also good but again not certifable in the UK
The best all rounder is the CAP as flown by Tom Cassells
By: Mark9 - 24th December 2003 at 12:20
Extra 300 is my favourite great fun;) 😉 Anna:D
By: yak139 - 23rd December 2003 at 16:23
I have a Yak 52, great aircraft, will do all manoeuvres in aresti catalogue 2 up with full fuel. Becoming more expensive to run now on the G register, what out for the airframe MPD currently issued by the CAA.
Just bought a Firefly, only flown a couple of times, its no Yak, but much cheaper to run and still +6/-3 G. It is also well equipped for cross country flying. Despite 160hp and VP prop its still a delight to fly.
By: mixtec - 23rd December 2003 at 05:28
The Extra 300 and Sukoi-31 are the top aerobatic planes in the world, and your really not going to find anything better performance wise. But if you want light and manuerverable, there are tons of kit planes out there that are very impressive. If I were in your position, Id buy the Lancair Sentry. This is a tandom seat turboprop that has a higher top speed than the Tucano or PC-9.
http://www.lancair-kits.com/Lancair_Sentry.html
By: Srbin - 23rd December 2003 at 04:57
hmmm that Extra 300 looks nice, any other good aerobatic planes that are lighter and very manouverable?
By: Shorty01 - 22nd December 2003 at 07:41
So, how do the good old Zlins rate these days ?
By: Jorgo - 21st December 2003 at 17:06
Actually, thinking more about his request, if Srbin is impressed that the Su-31 is ONLY US$190,000, then I figure that cost of operation really isn’t his main concern.
More likely he should buy something that he should handle safely. If you have lots of tailwheel time, do look at a Pitts or something. If not, look at something easier to fly, with less power to weight ratio. Once again, a CAP10 is low powered, but that clever tailwheel will keep you on your toes (or off the runway).
By: neal h - 21st December 2003 at 16:34
The Extra 300 is a fanatastic aeroplane but expensive to operate. If you do get one, get a better colour scheme than the one above.
I’d also look at two seat Pitts or Christen Eagle or something like that.
Neal
By: Jorgo - 20th December 2003 at 18:50
and the Extra 300 (if you think you can handle it).
By: Jorgo - 20th December 2003 at 18:49
The Yak is nice
I agree with Moggy’s recommendations, look at the Yak-52.
Especially if you have little tailwheel time.
The Cap10 is a nice two seater, but if you have money to burn check out the Extra 300. I’ll even come and help you fly it.
You have to buy a two seater so that you can be taught to fly decent aeros, and secondly, so you can take up your friends.
Photos follow… first the Yak-52..
By: Srbin - 19th December 2003 at 14:27
ohhh that sounds cool. I dont mind either a one seat or two seat, I wouldnt care about either but I am certainly looking around for an Aerobatic aircraft.
Any other aerobatic aircraft around? any good ones.
By: Moggy C - 18th December 2003 at 21:04
I’ve only ever owned one aerobatic aircraft (I hate the word ‘planes’ that’s what carpenters use 😉 😉 ), the Yak 52
You could do a lot worse than look at them if it’s a two seater you fancy. Nowhere near the Sukhoi for top-level competition aeros, but then, quite a lot cheaper. You can almost certainly pick one up for less than 60,000 dollars.
Big lazy radial, warbird cockpit, tough as old boots, can live outside happily most the year.
Wish I still had mine
Moggy