October 25, 2010 at 12:49 pm
With the cuts, we are about to lose a lot of very historic numberplates, notably 1(F) and IV (AC) Sqn when the Harrier goes out of service plus 5 (AC) when Sentinel goes; and a few of us were contemplating where these plates would/could go.
Out of interest and notwithstanding historic and ORBAT precedence, if there were to be a complete re-numbering of every Sqn which numbers should we definitely keep and who should get them?
F’rinstance 1(F) could be renamed 1 (RAFAT) Sqn and fly red Hawks (T1A are still sidewinder and gun capable so there is a tenous fighter link). 617 could be based out of Coningsby flying the BBMF aircraft?
So what should be saved?
Play nicely now!
By: TonyT - 22nd May 2012 at 19:43
:D:rolleyes:;)
By: cotteswold - 22nd May 2012 at 19:27
Been there, done it?
By: TonyT - 22nd May 2012 at 18:41
Bar a couple of months on 431 MU doing deepstrip which was a bit of a holding posting before tour ex in RAFG my whole career was first line, could also add LSS which was the VC 10 line for 10 Sqn…. Nearly ended up in base hangar after a course, but my F/Sgt kicked up a stink and got me posted back…. 😀
By: cotteswold - 22nd May 2012 at 18:37
Coincidence – tour on 240 Squadron!
By: TonyT - 22nd May 2012 at 18:30
My main squadrons I served on we’re 240 OCU, 20 Sqn, 14 Sqn… And happy to see 20 Sqn is not on the list of active squadrons.
By: cotteswold - 22nd May 2012 at 08:44
But you haven’t served with them twice, Tony?
And isn’t there something about a/c types? I’m not fully conversant with the niceties.
= Tim
PS – much pleased!!
By: TonyT - 21st May 2012 at 20:48
One squadron are reforming at Leuchars with Tiffies
Though to be fair 3 Sqn was the 1st Sqn in the RAF, so cannot see the big thing about 1 Sqn…..
By: baloffski - 21st May 2012 at 20:45
No. 1 Balloon Company, Royal engineers are to reform in their centenary year:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/no1f-squadron-21052012
It says the official Stand Up will be at what may be the last Leuchars Airshow, which has to be the most bittersweet of double edged swords.
By: baloffski - 26th January 2012 at 08:32
It all used to go to a place called Quedgeley, but I think that is a housing estate now. Orificers swords used to be held there as well and I know they went to Innsworth when Quedgeley shut, Innsworth is now some Army barracks with everything moved to High Wycombe so I kinda guess that is where it all ended up?
By: F-111buff26 - 5th August 2011 at 16:57
Could the BBMF take on some of the numberplates? Assign one, relavent to each aircraft, with each aircraft ‘team’ representing a squadron…. might keep some of the numbers alive…. could also rotate them every year…..
By: baloffski - 5th August 2011 at 16:49
Not me Guv. (But I know a man that can!)
By: WB981 - 5th August 2011 at 16:07
Baloffski
I guess you read the same DIN as me!
By: TonyT - 5th August 2011 at 01:07
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/405401-oldest-raf-squadron.html
By: DaveF68 - 4th August 2011 at 17:54
10 Sqn will be the first Voyager Sqn
XIII Sqn will re-equip with Reaper
51 Sqn will be re-equipped with Rivet Joint/ Airseeker
Those have all been confirmed by the MOD – the serial numbers of the RC-135s will have the same digits as the original Nimrods, which add up to 51!!
IV(R) Sqn will be re-equipped with Hawk T2 – 19 Sqn to Disband
14 Sqn will re-equip with Shadow R1
42(R), 55(R), 111, 120 and 201 plus a lot of existing Reserve Sqns will disband
70 Sqn will get the A400M
Hadn’t heard the one about the Shadow component of 5 Sqn being re-assigned to 14 Sqn, but it makes sense – 42, 55, 111, 120 and 201 going is no surprise either.
76 Squadron, having only recently (2007) been issued to the Tucano Air Navigation Squadron, has been disbanded again, as the RAF are not training Navigators anymore.
By: baloffski - 4th August 2011 at 17:01
I have heard from a reliable source that the following changes are going to be made to RAF Sqn Numberplates:
IV(R) Sqn will be re-equipped with Hawk T2 – 19 Sqn to Disband
10 Sqn will be the first Voyager Sqn
XIII Sqn will re-equip with Reaper
14 Sqn will re-equip with Shadow R1
42(R), 55(R), 111, 120 and 201 plus a lot of existing Reserve Sqns will disband
51 Sqn will be re-equipped with Rivet Joint/ Airseeker
70 Sqn will get the A400M
Still no definite news on No1 Balloon Company RE although it looks likely they will be the first F35 Sqn. The hole in the wall gang are of course safe until Tornado goes, but that possibly only gives them 6 and a bit years, so what then? Could one possibly become the Reds shadow Sqn?
By: baloffski - 26th October 2010 at 09:17
I am hearing Shadow R1 will go to the Army as the asset it ‘replaced’ was an Army asset used elsewhere. Supposedly, it is could be used as a bit of a barter chip for any future realocation of funds, with the Royal Marines being thrown into the pot as they are a Shadow end user and the Navy wanting to keep some element of fixed wing ops in the short term. All very political!
So can we afford to be 1(F)less for ten years? Afford to lose an important BofB plate?
By: spitfireman - 25th October 2010 at 21:20
BTW does anyone know what the RC-135 will be named in RAF service?
‘Token’ (:rolleyes:)
By: Pondskater - 25th October 2010 at 20:57
If historic significance is important, 201 (and 202) will be retained
By: pagen01 - 25th October 2010 at 20:33
You’ve confused me slightly Baloffski, Surely the RC-135 will be operated by 51 sqn when their Nimrods go, and 5 sqn are already operating the Shadow R.1 which I would think they will carry on doing once the Sentinal R.1 goes?
BTW does anyone know what the RC-135 will be named in RAF service?
I picked XV fairly radomly to be honest, as the Tornado GR force will shrink, their sqns will go, I can’t see 617 being one of them.
By: baloffski - 25th October 2010 at 20:28
Good reply Pagen01 but a few things:
5 (AC) will disband at the end of the Afghan campaign as the Sentinel will be done away with, but it could reform straight away(ish) with Rivet Joint 707’s.
I doubt XV (R) will disband it is the biggest Sqn in the RAF and will still be very important in the Tornado world.
Now for the bones of contention:
Historically, and that after all is what we are about:
Keep 99 who have been truckies for the last fifty years on and off but disband 14 with nearly unbroken offensive air since they formed?
Keep 60 who spent most of there op time in the middle east but ditch Battle of Britain Sqn 41?
Should the RAF be without 1(F) arguably the most important and if you count balloon ops the oldest Sqn in the world, for ten years waiting for JSF?
As stated above 5 could reform almost imediately with RC135 but then what of 51?