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Staggerwing at Duxford

Did anyone witness the staggerwing ‘peck’ the grass at Duxford on sunday?
I did and it looked like bad luck to me as the wheels were just on the edge of the concrete and as the pilot opened up the wheels didn’t seem to want to revolve onto the grass edge,making the aircraft tip up.

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By: The Blue Max - 3rd July 2012 at 10:50

Eric

No offence caused, and I am sure the owner/pilot will have wanted to make sure all was well. However it would not be the first time, and im sure not the last that the desire to get the A/C home can cloud one’s judgment!
As I say I am pleased the A/C is home safe and all is well 🙂

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By: ericmunk - 3rd July 2012 at 10:23

The post, “It was just a Prop change” was made on a public forum!!! And it is that statement that was reacted to.

My apologies Blue Max if I may unwillingly have offended you, and I am not doubting your considerable expertise and experience.

It is exactly the above that prompted my reaction: it was not a case of ‘oh-just change-the-prop-and-fly-home-and-see-if-she-holds’. That is an attitude you will not see from this pilot/owner, I assure you. The aircraft has been looked over by very competent engineers, the prop was changed, and it was given the OK to fly. It then flew home.

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By: The Blue Max - 3rd July 2012 at 09:52

I find it incredible how contributors to this forum who do not have access to facts have an opinion ready at hand in notime.

Knowing the very careful, highly experienced and meticulous pilot/owner very well I can assure you the aircraft and engine have been given a thorough inspection, and are fully airworthy. Period.

It is amazing that some people don’t seem to realize just how damaging these kind of ill-informed and incorrect comments in the public domain can be to people’s reputation.

The post, “It was just a Prop change” was made on a public forum!!! And it is that statement that was reacted to. I have seen the picture of the strike and it is clearly visable that the prop has appeared to have stopped!
As someone with ove 20 years of experience on 985’s and other vintage and GA engine’s it was hardly “Ill informed”!! i would say that it is extreemly damaging to the Vintage Aircraft movement that the general public think that after such an incident it was just a case of chucking on a new prop! Especialy after the tragic incident at OW on Sunday with all the “These old aeroplanes should be left in Museums” statements that are flying about by the nimby’s!

I am glad the A/C is safley back home and that all concerned are happy with its condition

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By: Propstrike - 3rd July 2012 at 09:39

She landed this evening at here homebase Eindhoven, was just an prop change luckily.

Exactly. What better way to check out the condition of your recently whacked engine, than a nice relaxing trip across the ocean !:rolleyes:

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By: paul178 - 3rd July 2012 at 09:37

#9 The very careful, highly experienced and meticulous pilot still stuck it on its nose though.:) I still consider The Blue Max and Moggys comments to be correct and I don’t consider with their experience their posts to be ill informed. I only know about high performance car engines but they don’t fall out of the sky if they stop!

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By: Oily Rag - 3rd July 2012 at 09:02

There are sufficient engineers on hand at Dux to assist and advise. If it’s good to go, then thats it.

Facts?

One flight only? reduced rpm? Land asap if any worries. Change prop on landing?

Who knows? The pilot for one…..

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By: Moggy C - 3rd July 2012 at 08:52

Isn’t the general rule that if a propstrike stops the engine then a strip down to check for shock-loading is mandated, otherwise changing the prop alone is sufficient?

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By: ericmunk - 3rd July 2012 at 08:34

+1

Does the new prop go round and no funny noises or vibrations from the engine?
No thats ok then off you go!

I find it incredible how contributors to this forum who do not have access to facts have an opinion ready at hand in notime.

Knowing the very careful, highly experienced and meticulous pilot/owner very well I can assure you the aircraft and engine have been given a thorough inspection, and are fully airworthy. Period.

It is amazing that some people don’t seem to realize just how damaging these kind of ill-informed and incorrect comments in the public domain can be to people’s reputation.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd July 2012 at 21:05

They inspect the engine today when they took the old prop off. In the afternoon the new prop was flown is and fitted. After that they made a engine run to check things. I think there were lucky enough to hit the grass instead of contrete. The ground was also moist I think due to the rain the last few days.

I’m not an engineer what so ever but the only thing I know that’s she now back in the hangar at Eindhoven

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By: paul178 - 2nd July 2012 at 21:01

Really!!!!!!!:eek:

Looking at the picture I think I would want a little more inpection tham just changing the prop!!!

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Does the new prop go round and no funny noises or vibrations from the engine?
No thats ok then off you go!

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By: The Blue Max - 2nd July 2012 at 20:06

She landed this evening at here homebase Eindhoven, was just an prop change luckily.

Really!!!!!!!:eek:

Looking at the picture I think I would want a little more inpection tham just changing the prop!!!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 2nd July 2012 at 19:53

She landed this evening at here homebase Eindhoven, was just an prop change luckily.

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By: Halcyon days - 2nd July 2012 at 12:35

See my photos here of the occurence.

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=114038&page=42

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By: ericmunk - 2nd July 2012 at 11:47

Yes, seen from a distance….the TFC pen…just saw the tail rise and a shower of grass and dirt. Very sad for the pilot/owners, must be a galling thing to happen. Hope the crankshaft is OK.

It’s due home today, so probably not that bad.

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By: slicer - 2nd July 2012 at 11:24

Yes, seen from a distance….the TFC pen…just saw the tail rise and a shower of grass and dirt. Very sad for the pilot/owners, must be a galling thing to happen. Hope the crankshaft is OK.

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