Star Wars Episode II

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Sorry… I wasn’t clear…

My point was that they shouldn’t wear the armour they do as it seems to be useless… it might as well be made of paper for all the protection it seems to offer.

BTW Black lenses would be useless against blinding lasers… most are IR and will blind you even if your eyelids are closed. A more likely material to protect eyesight from blinding lasers is called “buckyballs” and operates much like eyeglasses that darken in bright light… except it reacts much faster.

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GarryB posted:”I wonder why the Stormtroopers persist in wearing armour. It doesn’t stop laser fire from even the smallest pistol, and it doesn’t even protect them from wooden clubs and rocks wielded by 3 foot nothing furballs (Ewoks).”

Well those kind of armor suits may not do much in outerspace, but dont be surprised if soldiers here on earth wear suits like that in the non too distant future. Here are some purposes such a suit may serve:

a)bullet proof or resistant to small arms and shrapnel.
b)slightly preasurized to guard against blast preasure.
c)protection against elements (dirt, water, wind, mud, etc)
d)protection against nerve gas/bio warfare
e)provide oxygen in low air/no air enviornmets
f)provide armor protection in hand to hand combat
g)provide climitization in very hot/cold environments
i)further preasurized for use in space
j)black lenses to guard against blinding lazers (actualy a current technology)

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I do wish I could be as cool as you, Geforce, but putting my dreams aside:

Next ‘Star Wars’ to have a dark ending?
Coming soon: Destruction of the Jedi
May 23, 2002 Posted: 1442 GMT

SAN RAFAEL, California (AP) — Fate has a major role in the “Star Wars” saga. And, at least from outward appearances, “Episode III” appears fated to end bleakly.

The original “Star Wars” (1977) ended with a happy tableau, our heroes smiling and triumphant. “Return of the Jedi” (1983) ended even more cheerily, with Jedi specters Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda beaming at their victorious progeny from the great beyond.

“The Empire Strikes Back” and the new film, “Star Wars: Episode II — Attack of the Clones,” share ominous conclusions, but nothing calamitous.

Next up is “Episode III,” a galactic train wreck in the offing. The last film in George Lucas’ six-part saga of the Skywalker family inevitably ends in tragedy, the final prequel leading into the dark times of dictatorship that prevail at the opening of the original “Star Wars.”

Figure that young Jedi Anakin has completed his transition to the dark side as villain Darth Vader, destroying the Jedi order and paving the way for the evil emperor to dash the democratic Republic. Jedi masters Obi-Wan and Yoda somehow wind up on the road to exile. Since she doesn’t turn up in the original trilogy, Padme Amidala, Anakin’s beloved, may end up a corpse.

Padme and Anakin’s children, Luke and Leia — who will appear as infants in “Episode III,” Lucas says — are separated to be raised unaware of each other’s existence, the galaxy’s two hopes for salvation when the original trilogy begins.

‘All the bad guys win in the end’
“It’s dark for ‘Star Wars,’ ” Lucas said of the next film during an interview at his headquarters, Skywalker Ranch. “Let’s face it, all the bad guys win in the end, all the good guys are dead except for a couple. So it doesn’t have a happy ending. I’m not sure how people are going to take it. It does have some fun in it. It’s not completely bleak. But it’s not an upper.”

“Episode III” begins shooting next summer and will be released in 2005.

Lucas is secretive about the details on how “Star Wars” arrives at its darkest hour. Even his principal cast — Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman, Hayden Christensen and Samuel L. Jackson — do not know the specifics.

What has Lucas shared with them?

“Not a lot, other than I die,” said Jackson, who plays Jedi elder Mace Windu. “And my only request is I don’t get shot in the back by some ‘droid. Hopefully, there’ll be somebody standing there in front of me that’s worthy of killing me. Either Darth Vader or him and a combination of Siths” — masters of the dark side of the Force.

Portman, who plays Padme, expects there to be some ray of hope amid the chaos and calamity of “Episode III” to set the stage for Anakin’s later redemption.

“I still think George has a really optimistic line in the thread of all of them,” said Portman. “I don’t necessarily think he has this dark outlook for the end of things, not like some apocalyptic vision. There’s always this balance of hope. … His movies are the antithesis of cynicism.”

Christensen: ‘Incredibly dark and destructive’
Christensen, who joined the cast as Anakin in “Episode II,” figures the final installment will end so darkly the film might have trouble getting a PG rating like its five predecessors (though shrewd businessman Lucas likely will design the film to avoid a PG-13 so pre-teens can see it without an adult chaperone).

“I think he will end almost on an apocalyptic note,” Christensen said. “I just can’t imagine it not being an incredibly dark and destructive film.”

“You’ve got a war, and what we know from the previous trilogy, what my character does in wiping out the entire Jedi race, and the falling apart of my relationship with Obi-Wan.”

“Episode III” will take place a few years after the action of “Attack of the Clones,” Lucas said. After that, there is a 20-year gap before the events of the first “Star Wars,” when young farm boy Luke meets Obi-Wan, Leia and Han Solo and is hurled into the rebellion against the Empire.

After it became a box-office phenomenon, the 1977 original was retitled “Star Wars: Episode IV — A New Hope” to set up the two sequels and eventual three-part prequel.

In keeping with that title, Lucas said, there will be some sense of hope as the dark curtain falls on “Episode III.”

The director said he already filmed one of the last images of “Episode III” during production of “Attack of the Clones.”

“It’s not the exact closing image, but it’s one of the final images,” Lucas said. Laughing, he added: “I won’t say what it is.”

http://europe.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/23/ca.s02.starwars.darkend…

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 27-05-02 AT 10:32 AM (GMT)]BTW after seeing starwars II with a mate I went to see “Collateral Damage”. If you are not American don’t bother…
A group of Columbians P!$$ed off with the US use a bomb to try to assassinate some top officials. They accidently kill a woman and her child. They don’t really care and call it collateral damage (much the same way the US government might with a stray bomb in Bagdad or Kosovo). Woman and child’s Husband/Father is a fireman who is an expert in arson and bombs. He goes down to Columbia and kills lots of people with bombs. Official US policy is to negotiate but G man in charge of operations down there uses firemans presence to “wipe out the bad guys” (on the pretext of a rescue mission) which consist of everyone from hardened psychos to peasant woman and children whose crime was to run from a roadblock instead of stopping. Needless to say explosives are used to kill about 20 times more Columbians than US citizens and a twist at the end is supposed to be unpredictible. (I won’t spoil it for those who do want to see it.)
Needless to say the good guy (arnold) uses the same indiscriminate weapon (ie a bomb) but fails to get his target because he leaps to the rescue of a woman and child. (This supposedly seperates US citizens from the terrorists… they both use bombs but a good person will risk their life to avoid civilian casualties… much like US Pilots who crash their planes into LGBs that are flying off course etc etc). Explosives are then widely used to kill lots of people and the US official gets a dressing down by Arnie for wiping out a village of innocent people, but we all know that bad guys are the ones that live in little hell holes and don’t speak English…
I suppose that the film could have portrayed all of the US people as heros, but in the end only the US victim of the situation got any pity… (he happens to be a firefighter too).
One amusing part is where the bad guy says to Arnie that they are quite alike in the sense that they have both lost family and they both fight back with bombs.
Arnies retort is that he will stop when the bad guy (who killed his family) is dead.
The bad guy does not reply that he would also stop when the US stops interfering in his country as I was expecting… he just hits Arnie because apparantly Columbians are just plain bad and fight the US because they like to kill, not because the US presence has led to any deaths at all.

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“Despite newfound power bestowed by the dark side of the Force, which added to his already formidable abilities, Anakin was grievously wounded in the fight. His burning anger kept him alive, and he was forever scarred not only by his wounds but also by betrayal. “

Yes, my friend mentioned the fight with Obe-wan… I didn’t mention it because I didn’t want to give too much away. At the end of the fight Anakin falls into the lavapit. The resulting burns means he needs the armour suit to survive. If you remember in Empire Strikes Back his skin looks damaged… not by clean cauterised cuts that a lightsaber would do, but like he’d been burnt in a fire.

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If they did go ahead with Episodes VII – IX, then would Lucas write a new story, or would he base the script on stories already written by independent Authors?

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>
>I’ve talked to a friend who has read the books and he says
>that in episode 3 Darth Vader is created when anikin falls
>in a lava pit and is badly burned. The emperor saves him and
>turns him to the dark side. due to his injuries he has to
>wear the black armour that darth vader is famous for…
>probably also responsible for the raspy breathy voice too.
>

http://www.starwars.com/ contains a slightly different account of the source of the suit and mask :
“Skywalker was seduced by the dark side of the Force. Fueled by rage and discontent with the pace of Obi-Wan’s training, Anakin challenged his master to a duel. Despite newfound power bestowed by the dark side of the Force, which added to his already formidable abilities, Anakin was grievously wounded in the fight. His burning anger kept him alive, and he was forever scarred not only by his wounds but also by betrayal. He abandoned his former identity. When metal coupled with flesh in the form of cyborg implants and enhancements required to sustain him, Skywalker’s transformation was complete. He was no longer Anakin. He was Darth Vader.”

My guess is that one of the third movie’s highlights will be the point where he dons the mask.

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“People named Skywalker carrying lightsabres shouldn’t be surprised if their insurances are going to ask a lot more money from now on. Somehow, they always loose limbs when fighting some sith lord…”

I’ve talked to a friend who has read the books and he says that in episode 3 Darth Vader is created when anikin falls in a lava pit and is badly burned. The emperor saves him and turns him to the dark side. due to his injuries he has to wear the black armour that darth vader is famous for… probably also responsible for the raspy breathy voice too.

I was amazed how many Kiwi’s are in the film… and the odd Aussie too. Lucas seems to be saving money?

Hard to picture Temuara Morrison as the father of all the storm troopers… and Boba Fett is a young Maori boy…

Still the Maori of New Zealand did manage to defeat the Empire of Britain on the battlefield… they were later defeated by politicians… interesting George Lucas… was that an intentional irony or is it purely coincidence.

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till know all Star War movies have gone over my head…so didnt even make an effort to see this one :9

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This is what I believe. The last time I heard Lucas been asked about the last 3 parts, he basically said NO, there would be no more after the prequels. BUT, its a fickle business Hollywood, and money can often change the minds of even those people who have millions already.

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not quite, everyone knows there were SUPPOSED to be 9 films, but if I remember correctly they decide to scrap the last 3 films.

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No actors in the final three parts? He’d better make the story a little decent then, as Nathalie Portman definately made the Phantom Menace bearable by providing ample visual compensation. I saw AotC yesterday, and amused myself a lot. Indeed, the hints for the stories-yet-to-take-place were a lot of fun.

Anyone remember Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru from A New Hope – not only as people, but the scorched skeletons laying in front of their moisture farm?

Oh, and i think they made a perfect casting with the new Anakin Skywalker. He was just as annoying and a poor actor as the little toddler in Episode One. I hope he gets chopped up a bit more in Episode III.

Regards,

Arthur

ps People named Skywalker carrying lightsabres shouldn’t be surprised if their insurances are going to ask a lot more money from now on. Somehow, they always loose limbs when fighting some sith lord…

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yeh everyone knows that there are going to be 9 films.

the next 3 are susposed to be around 2010 if i remember rightly. lucas thinks that there will be no need fopr actors then

rabie :9

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>>Episode III is now in post preductiuon and Episode VII is almost written.
>
>So you are saying there is definitely going to be movies
>made on Episodes 7-9?? Whats your source??
>
>Regards, Glenn.

Yes that is what I am saying Glenn. My source would be the man himself George Lucas

Regards

Nikumba

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“>Episode III is now in post preductiuon and Episode VII is almost written.
So you are saying there is definitely going to be movies made on Episodes 7-9?? Whats your source??”

You should be a little more clear… 7-9 have already been written… the movie screenplay has yet to be finished for 7.

I wonder why the Stormtroopers persist in wearing armour. It doesn’t stop laser fire from even the smallest pistol, and it doesn’t even protect them from wooden clubs and rocks wielded by 3 foot nothing furballs (Ewoks).

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>Episode III is now in post preductiuon and Episode VII is almost written.

So you are saying there is definitely going to be movies made on Episodes 7-9?? Whats your source??

Regards, Glenn.

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I’m a big Star Wars fan so I went to see it at the very first showing with some friends of mine. I really enjoyed it. It was better than Episode I, but I didn’t think Episode I was all that bad. I just didn’t like the little kid. He was a bit annoying to me. I don’t have a problem with Jar-Jar. I think he’s (and Gungans in general) are kinda neat. He’s now a Senator so I imagine he’ll make an appearance in III, so just get over it if you don’t like it. The thing I loved about this movie is all of the allusions to the later trilogy. It kinda helps you to put it all together. Man, I tell you someone I didn’t like. Boba Fett. That little kid was a punk, but then again, I suppose he is supposed to be. I wonder if Jango Fett’s ship, the Firespray that he had the dogfight with Obi-Wan with, is the same Firespray that Boba Fett calls Slave I. Boba obviously knew how to make use of the laser cannons even when the thing is on the ground. I think that the ships of the Royal Naboo family are really pretty. The Naboo Starfighter and the big transports that Senator Amidala and Anakin use are just gorgeous. They are so graceful. I wish it would show the Naboo Bomber (from the game Battle for Naboo). It looks neat as well. As is pretty obvious, I love Star Wars. My favorite aspect is not the Jedi stuff, but all the big starships and starfighters, and other vehicles. My favorite ships would have to be the Y-Wing, used by the Rebal Alliance, the Lambda-Class Shuttle used by the Empire and Rebel Alliance, and the Mon Calamari starships used by the Rebel Alliance. I have the X-Wing Alliance flight sim for my computer as well as X-Wing, TIE Fighter, and X-Wing VS TIE Fighter. I also have Rogue Squadron for my Nintendo 64 and Rogue Leader for my Gamecube.

All in all, the movie is great! I don’t ever pay attention to movie critics because half the time they don’t really know what they are talking about. Anyone who’s even curious, GO SEE IT. And if you haven’t seen any of the Star Wars movies, GO SEE THEM ALL, as you are missing out on a great story. Star Wars is the essence of the term drama.

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I agree that this movie improved alot as far as detail of scenery and effects. Storyline was still dumb, but good special effects made it easier to ingnore plot. Two movies that I think influenced Lucas for this movie were Blade Runner and The Fifth Element. I agree with Glenn also that the battle scenes, as in the phantom menace movie, were pretty mindless as they just stood infront of eachother and fired and coulnt hit anything.

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>So is there going to be an Episode III or will it jump
>straight into the classics from here??? Do we get to see
>Anakin turn “to the dark side” in EII???

You are joking FLanker arent you!!!

Of course there will be an Episode III does the naming of the Star War films escape you ??

SW I : The Phantom Menance
SW II : Attack of the Clone / The Clone Wars
SW III : Not known
SW IV : A New Hope
SW V : The Empire Strikes Back
SW VI : Return of the Jedi
SW VII : Not known
SW VIII : Not known
SW IX : Not known

Episode III is now in post preductiuon and Episode VII is almost written.

With regards to the Anakin and Dark side question I wont answer it so I do not spoil if for others who may want to watch the film.

Nikumba