Stinson defies gravity,just

Had I been there, and had the aeroplane had flaps, I would have used one stage of flap for enhanced lift, and perhaps not deployed them until near rotation ( or in this case, plunge down the hill) to reduce airframe drag whilst gaining speed on T/O.

Yes, small ones (small by Cessna standards).
Looking at the video, I don’t think they were down.

ah ha!! so my eye’s were working yesterday morning;)
so should/did you have flaps down Propstrike??

I have flown with Xtangomike quite a few times.

Actually, he is a good pilot really. He’s still alive. And so am I.

Well thankyou kind sir!!……… here’s your parachute….lets go……

I have no idea if the Stinson has flaps or not.
Moggy

Yes, small ones (small by Cessna standards).
Looking at the video, I don’t think they were down.

Flaming heck, 23500 rpm on a Lycoming? What sort of fuel were you using as I can only get 2,400 out of mine!

That would be the PT6 turbine powered TriPacer 😉

I have flown with Xtangomike quite a few times.

Why do you think I look so old? I’m only 23, you know….!

Mind you, the real epic was Guestling, eh Xtango?

Actually, he is a good pilot really. He’s still alive. And so am I.

Flaming heck, 23500 rpm on a Lycoming? What sort of fuel were you using as I can only get 2,400 out of mine!

Propstrike I believe just cross-posted. I don’t think he was the pilot.

Moggy

aha! well pointed out.. and observed lol

I had a similar expereience in a 160Tri Pacer at Biggin some years ago.
It was a hot day and I opted for the grass, because of a busy hard runway.
Should have known better as the two heavies up front on the incoming journey were now passegers in the back, and I and my right hand man were lightweights, now in the front seats.(1st mistake)
Did the usual run up checks and noticed a slight drop on one mag at full power. Had a word with the others and all agreed it was not a real problem (2nd mistake)
Gave myself lots of room and proceeded take off run. Roughish grass, 23500 revs, bumpy footpath across the grass, not really enough speed at that point but….3rd mistake.should have aborted.
Still lots of room, one stage of flap, nose up….some lift…and the end of the grass coming up quickly.
Airbourne …just….the V of the trees cut down during the war now dead centre…..fingers only on the stick and feeling the aircraft climbing just above the stall 65/70.
Flaps up gently as we passed through the tree gap and out over the valley.
Speed build up and a couple of “phews” from the back seats.
Never again….big…BIG…lesson learnt. 23500 revs are not enough with 4 up and a hot day. Has to be 24500 minimum.
We all pe’ed on the nose wheel after our safe arrival at Goodwood.
You never stop learning in the flying game. Now retired and still alive.

I have no idea if the Stinson has flaps or not.

Certainly my PA22 doesn’t

Moggy

FLAPS??? is the stinson not fitted with flaps??

Usually would have for take off.

Pah, lady drivers. (Good of her to own up though, we’ve all been caught out with a take-off like that)

nice of you to fess up . so glad you didnt get a dunking ha ha

Propstrike I believe just cross-posted. I don’t think he was the pilot.

Moggy

😮 nearly a case of putting ski s on,nice to read the explanation as well,lesson well learnt 🙂

My heart missed a beat watching that, wasn’t Propstrike taking off though – he found the comment.

nice of you to fess up . so glad you didnt get a dunking ha ha

Thanks Pstke – neat to hear the story. We’ve all been ‘there’ where our knowledge is a bit behind our belief.

This was posted on the Stinson forum.

”Oh dear… Have to ‘fess up. Things do come back to haunt one, don’t they? This was me, Selina, in GYYF. Of course I have already received this video a few times in the last couple of days. I think it was 1999 or 2000.

What can I say? It was hot, I had 2 passengers and thought I knew more than I did about short field takeoffs. This little field is just outside of Victoria B.C. and once we were in the air we headed straight to Nanaimo’s LONG runway to land and assess damages. The only victims, other than my pride, were the gear fairings as I did a bit of landscaping on the way out.

What was I thinking? I sure didn’t use correct short field procedures and quickly ran out of room. I knew I was in trouble and also knew I was committed to the takeoff. As we lifted off my right seat passenger, a more experienced pilot (as was the second passenger in the back), was quick enough to yell at me to push the nose down and was ready to do so himself if I didn’t. That instinct to pull up is strong especially with the tops of the trees coming at you.

Just about the best learning experience I’ve every had… And probably the scariest.

Coincidentally I met the owner of this little field this past weekend at a fly-in and we had a little reminisce about my “incident”. The field is still in use although I think they have removed a few more of the trees at the end. I don’t think I’ll be tackling it again although a little voice inside says perhaps I should go back without passengers and do it properly”

Looking at it again…he was extremely lucky to get away with it…hopefully he learned from the experience 🙂

FLAPS??? is the stinson not fitted with flaps??
its earlyer in the morning, and my heads not working to good just yet:p
but should,nt it have had just a little flaps for take off???
and yes the wing did look like it passed through the gap in the trees:eek: