I heard on the news the other day, that 22 Pilot Whales had been left high and dry on the beach Nr Fife, Scotland. There were 10 same species that were able to be guided back safely into the Sea.
I did read, some time ago that possibly underwater Sonar may be a possible cause.
Any thoughts on this?.
Another thought, why do the Japanese kill Whales for so called Scientific study?.
Surely mankind knows all it does need to know about them without having to kill them?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: Lincoln 7 - 10th October 2012 at 17:06
Charlie. Well at least your up front and honest about it, and to quote an old saying, “To each, his own”.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: charliehunt - 10th October 2012 at 16:58
I have often pondered your question over a fairly long life and my views now are quite different from those I held as a younger man and certainly as a child, for obvious reasons. So, the honest answer to your question is that I wouldn’t. But I wouldn’t presume to speak for anyone else. Neither would I argue against their view. These matters are personal and subjective and we are all entitled to them.
By: Lincoln 7 - 10th October 2012 at 16:51
Charlie.
There are many species on this planet that are near to extinction, many are beautiful animals, snow leopards, Tigers, certain rhinos. etc.
Can you honestly put your hand on your heart, and say you, your Grandchildren, and millions more wouldn’t miss them?.I would, as no doubt many other members would.
Thats why rare spieces of birds for example, are protected.
Recently an Eagle in Scotland was trapped by a “Leg trap” it must have been in agony. It was found dumped in a laybye, still alive, and had to be put down.
Perhaps Al could tell us of the birds that are protected in Scotland, where rare birds are vigorously protected 24/7 throughout their breeding season.
I don’t however agree with the methods Greenpeace use on the Japanese Whaling ships, but they do realise the need for things to be protected.
That’s WHY:)
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: charliehunt - 10th October 2012 at 13:29
Why what?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
Why..”should do his bit in preserving any creature, great or small to exist.”?
By: spitfireman - 10th October 2012 at 12:09
Why not?
By: Lincoln 7 - 10th October 2012 at 11:29
Why what?.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: charliehunt - 10th October 2012 at 11:20
Why?
By: Lincoln 7 - 10th October 2012 at 11:14
Charlie.
I understand where your coming from and to a point agree, however, man should do his bit in preserving any creature, great or small to exist.
Look how many endangered species are being lost by cutting down vast areas of rain forests, and that’s just one example.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: charliehunt - 10th October 2012 at 11:05
An interesting thread. Whilst I would never knowingly cause any creature harm I am unable to feel great concern when animals die. There are thousands of species of creatures on the planet and over time, either by natural or unnatural causes, some die out whilst new species are discovered.
By: Lincoln 7 - 10th October 2012 at 10:49
TwinOtter 23.
Hi Howard, Many thanks for that report, it made interesting reading. There are several other links to follow, which I intend to read.
I saw some figures, and they seem to originate, from Whales being stranded around the Humber Estaury, and others around our coasts.
I am not surprised at these figures, when you consider the rubbish that gets dumped by us in these places.
I remember flying over the North Sea in a Shackleton, (Trying to track a sonar bouy, dropped the day before) whilst flying, I spotted a large ship was cleaning it’s bilges out, and there was a very long slick of oil being discharged, I informed the pilot, who did several low passes, and another took photos. The skipper of this ship, I found out later, got landed with a huge fine.
This seems to be a common practice, if the skippers think they can get away with it.
Is there any wonder these creatures suffer at the hands of man?.
Once again, thanks for the info.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: TwinOtter23 - 10th October 2012 at 10:16
Jim, the cause of death is in for the stranded Bridlington whale – bacterial infection; details in here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-19887100
By: Lincoln 7 - 2nd October 2012 at 09:36
Jim.
I refer you to you your own post in which you said It’s on Wikipedia, as I clearly stated prior. If I remember correctly it was you who brought the fishing industry as a whole into the discussion on whales.
Regards,
kev35
Kev, As well you know, we can argue about the U.K. fishing industries until the cows come home, and we won’t be able to come to a final conclusion.
As T.W. Howard stated, it’s about Whales. As regards the fishing subject, it’s closed as far as I am concerned, unless however, you would like to open it up again as a specific Post, however, it just boils down to number crunching at the end of the day.W.A.D.R.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: Last Lightning - 2nd October 2012 at 06:06
Are you sure it’s a Whale.
Could be one of the locals bathing?
Yep thats funny 🙁
By: kev35 - 1st October 2012 at 23:21
Jim.
I refer you to you your own post in which you said It’s on Wikipedia, as I clearly stated prior. If I remember correctly it was you who brought the fishing industry as a whole into the discussion on whales.
Regards,
kev35
By: Lincoln 7 - 1st October 2012 at 22:58
Ok Jim, just provide the link to where it says on wikipedia that all Grimsby trawlers spend most of their time tied up because they have exceeded their quotas. I’ve looked but can’t find it.
Regards,
kev35
I don’t remember stating that what you have stated I said WAS on wikipedia, I said that Grimsby was” Of great European interest”, no doubt because the EU unload a lot of fish at Grimsby.You WILL find that on Wikipedia.I think from most of the members replies, you are in a small minority. We are supposed to be discussing Whales,
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: kev35 - 1st October 2012 at 22:05
Ok Jim, just provide the link to where it says on wikipedia that all Grimsby trawlers spend most of their time tied up because they have exceeded their quotas. I’ve looked but can’t find it.
Regards,
kev35
By: Lincoln 7 - 1st October 2012 at 20:55
You may well be right, but just in the interests of even handedness, why not provide some figures to justify your theories? Because without substantiation that is all they will ever be.
Regards,
kev35
It’s on Wikipedia, as I clearly stated prior.Nice try Kev, but this trouts not rising to your fly.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: kev35 - 1st October 2012 at 19:36
T.O.
Howard I believe the criteria of Grimsby fish docks playing a “Major” part in the U.K. fishing industry is, solely down to the fact that the fish market there is supplied by E.U. Fishing vessels, which helps the number crunchers, make it look better than it realy is (For the odd U.K. F.Vs).that offload there.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
You may well be right, but just in the interests of even handedness, why not provide some figures to justify your theories? Because without substantiation that is all they will ever be.
Regards,
kev35
By: Lincoln 7 - 1st October 2012 at 18:51
WADR depending on the criteria being used for the evaluation Grimsby is a major fishing port, look on pages 8 to 10 in here!
T.O.
Howard I believe the criteria of Grimsby fish docks playing a “Major” part in the U.K. fishing industry is, solely down to the fact that the fish market there is supplied by E.U. Fishing vessels, which helps the number crunchers, make it look better than it realy is (For the odd U.K. F.Vs).that offload there.
Guess we had better stick to Whales, it’s more interesting anyway.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: hampden98 - 1st October 2012 at 16:35
Interesting that of the 131 vessels registered at Grimsby only 43 are based at Grimsby, so my original count on Google Earth shows that only 12 were not in port.
Thanks for the link Twin Otter 🙂
Getting this thread sort of back on track this is the Sperm Whale that was washed up on Skegness beach in March this year
Are you sure it’s a Whale.
Could be one of the locals bathing?
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