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Strange Insignia

Came across these amazing photo’s from the SDASM archives.
My question being what insignia are these inverted triangles ??
According to “WIKKI” these aircraft did serve with the Dutch in the East Indies.
But they do not look very orange to me.
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/Duggy009-1/Ryan%20-%20ST-Seaplane-1.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/Duggy009-1/Ryan%20-%20ST-Seaplane.jpg
Thanks in advance Duggy.

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By: J Boyle - 6th April 2017 at 16:15

I’m no markings expert, but that is one insignia I do know.

When I was a child there was plastic model kit of a Dutch Ryan on floats.. complete with molded “water” base. It was a 1/48th scale kit by HAWK. I always used to see it at the model shop.

Anyone else recall that?

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By: Archer - 6th April 2017 at 13:26

I remember that there is one photo somewhere that shows a Hurricane being moved (without wings) towards an aerodrome (or being assembled), somewhere in the Dutch East Indies. As it is a head-on shot the markings cannot be seen. That is supposed to be the only photo of a Dutch Hurricane.

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By: Stony - 6th April 2017 at 12:06

Thanks, one more question .
Is it true that Dutch Hurricanes in the East Indies that served briefly.
That there is no photographic history, of these aircraft with the orange triangle??
Or is this an internet myth?

Nope it is not an internet myth…
I have this ’60’s book on Military Aviation in the Dutch East Indies. And there is a question to the reader if there are any photo’s around of the Dutch Hurricanes….

They served so briefly that there was no time to take a picture…..

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By: ErrolC - 6th April 2017 at 02:11

Several still fly in Australia and NZ – only on wheels!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7561/15671673537_03528b8f1c_b.jpgArdmoreSMA14_8983flr by Errol Cavit, on Flickr

Added: Another example, currently without insignia (but nice potted history attached).
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/post/249610/thread

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By: Duggy - 6th April 2017 at 00:40

Thanks, one more question .
Is it true that Dutch Hurricanes in the East Indies that served briefly.
That there is no photographic history, of these aircraft with the orange triangle??
Or is this an internet myth?

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By: Archer - 5th April 2017 at 11:57

We’re fortunate to have an airworthy example in The Netherlands (sans floats though).
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2857/33723851361_3069af452d_b.jpg
DSC_1144_resize by Jelle Hieminga, on Flickr

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By: Gerard - 5th April 2017 at 11:09

More information here;

http://www.goodall.com.au/australian-aviation/ryan-stm/ryan-stm.htm

Cheers,
Matt

thnk you for the link, very interesting!

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By: Mark12 - 5th April 2017 at 08:51

For a period in the early 1970’s Spitfire Mk XI PL965 was so marked when on display at the Overloon museum in Holland.

Mark

Image by Harry van der Meer.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%206/11-PL965%207Overloon%201971%20Big%20Red%20Triangle%20via%20Harry%20van%20der%20Meer%20Peter%20R%20Arnold%20%20Collection%2001_zps4fgh3gvb.jpg

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By: JollyGreenSlugg - 5th April 2017 at 07:32

More information here;

http://www.goodall.com.au/australian-aviation/ryan-stm/ryan-stm.htm

Cheers,
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By: Duggy - 4th April 2017 at 21:59

Thanks everyone , so it is probably a STM-S2 variant of STM-2 with interchangeable wheel landing gear or floats for Netherlands East Indies Navy; 13 built.
According to “WIKKI” 🙂

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By: Gerard - 4th April 2017 at 12:46

Didn’t/don’t one or more of the Arab countries have a triangular insignia? Iraq springs to mind.

Beautiful pics, Duggy.

Anon.

All these use(d) triangle shaped roundels

Estonia
Mexico
Myanmar
Botswana
South Yemen
Iraq

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By: Gerard - 4th April 2017 at 12:42

Dutch ’roundels ‘ in use from 1939-1942

Officialy used to 1945. But in Europe, after the German invasion, only been used in a small version on RAF aircraft flown by Dutch crews.

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And after the war used by this aircraft on flights from the Netherlands to the Dutch East Indies.
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By: jack windsor - 4th April 2017 at 10:57

hi,
thank you Duggy, for finding and showing them they are grand pictures crystal clear…

regards,
jack…

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By: Fouga23 - 4th April 2017 at 10:10

It’s Dutch. Colours are a bit distorted, but it’s orange.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 4th April 2017 at 09:16

Didn’t/don’t one or more of the Arab countries have a triangular insignia? Iraq springs to mind.

Beautiful pics, Duggy.

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By: Oxcart - 4th April 2017 at 00:08

Dutch ’roundels ‘ in use from 1939-1942

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