April 30, 2015 at 7:22 pm
Someone on a modelling site I frequent linked to a site showing recent pictures of a Russian cold war scrap yard and this isjust sitting there…. my jaw hit the floor!
Is it real or a replica?
link to the site
http://igor113.livejournal.com/441419.html




By: fah619 - 22nd May 2015 at 07:14
Flyer:
Good Day! Tks for the nice pics, info & data. They do look a bit different. It looks like it was in some type of restoration for some time. Still looks odd a WW II sample among all those jets. Tks
By: Flyer - 21st May 2015 at 18:26
P-63s mentioned are the wrecks on the Kurils
2012 photo of some (but not the same, shown in first posts in this thread) “Kingcobra” on the Kurils:

Most probably, at Present days this wreck is recovered and evacuated to Russia mainland for some restoration projects.
About the “Kingcobra”, depicted in earlier posts, Russian proficients state, this particular aircraft never was in Khodynka exposition, but more than 5 years it was in hands of one private restorer – in same condition; most probably, this plane was purchased and delivered from this man.
Speaking generally about P63s in Russia, after War some of them were scrapped, but remaining served about 10 years in aviation units. After this period they were used as instructional airframes in aviation schools (few examples), most part scrapped, and remaining were used, for example, on Army’s or Air Force’s firing ranges as targets (like those Kurils “Kingcobras”).
In last 20 – 30 years it was found, we have many their wrecks (there were and P39‘s wrecks). Many of them were sold abroad; the rest were restored (or are under restoration now). Several restored P63s/P39s are placed in Russian museums and collections – and sometimes even as “street monument” !:

And some remains even possibly to purchase – for example, in 2011 – 2012 this P63C5 fuselage wreck was offered for sale:

By: fah619 - 21st May 2015 at 14:16
Heli1/Redhillwings:
Good Day fm across the pond!
Any P-63 pics of the Khodynka collection for years before?? Tks in advance.
By: DaveM2 - 21st May 2015 at 03:46
Warbird Recovery by Gordon Page. P-63s mentioned are the wrecks on the Kurils
By: fah619 - 21st May 2015 at 03:38
Oxcart:
Hi! tks for P-63 info & data. What’s the name of the book may I ask?? Did the author has pics of the P-39 laying around Siberia?? Tks in advance.
By: fah619 - 20th May 2015 at 20:43
Flanker:
Hi! Tks for all those fascinating pictures of the former USSR aircraft! Do you live near Moscow area?? Tks in advance
By: Seafuryfan - 1st May 2015 at 23:24
That Flagon….amazing looking aircraft….”we’ve got this bloody great radar….can you build something around it please?”
By: John Aeroclub - 1st May 2015 at 23:03
The other “piston” fuselage is a Yak 55.
John
By: Flanker_man - 1st May 2015 at 19:00
I recognise the the two Su-15’s – borts 37 & 50 – as being ex-Khodynka…..

AFAIK, they are being stored ready for a new museum under the auspices of Vadim Zadorozhny – his existing museum north of Moscow is getting a bit too crowded with some ex-Khodynka and ex-Yakovlev OKB airframes…..
Indeed, looking at the link, I can see the ex-Khodynak Sukhoi T10-20…..

.. and the Zadorozhny Mystere…..

So, it isn’t a scrapyard – its a storage facility where airframes are being collected ready for a new museum
Ken
By: Arabella-Cox - 1st May 2015 at 18:51
They were p63 and not there now
By: heli1 - 1st May 2015 at 18:04
I visited the Khodynka collection in the early 1990s. The aircraft were distinctly unairworthy then…and they bulldozed their Mil Mi-6 on site…the bas#ards!
By: Oxcart - 30th April 2015 at 21:55
I have a book about someone’s quest to get a ‘109 flying using a Russian wreck. On his travels he came across the remains of around 20 P-39s laying around in various places
By: DaveM2 - 30th April 2015 at 21:22
Mike is correct, the ex Kuril’s P-63 is privately owned and all the jets were donated by the Russian AF-they had previously been on display as the Khodynka Collection, but had to be moved because of residential development on that historic site. There are plans for a flying museum where they are all currently stored.
By: Mike J - 30th April 2015 at 20:05
Oh, and it’s a P-63, not a P-39
By: skyskooter - 30th April 2015 at 20:00
One of the general shots in the link shows it still in USAAF markings.
By: ian_ - 30th April 2015 at 19:53
Amazing link, thanks for posting. So much dead technology. Spray paint graffiti isn’t a Western affliction either.
By: Mike J - 30th April 2015 at 19:49
Yak-55
I believe it is a private collection, not a scrapyard
By: TonyT - 30th April 2015 at 19:36
any ideas?

sorry if the pictures are big, I just copied his links.
By: Arabella-Cox - 30th April 2015 at 19:26
Looks real to me.
It also looks like it has just left the workshop – not found in the woods somewhere.
Anon.