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:)I am looking for any parts or leads to find parts for the cockpit section. being there are none in the uk, apart from this one, I will have to look to other countries, museums, individuals, govt’s for old spare parts .. scrap or otherwise.

if anyone can help me, I would be very grateful, however small the help may be.

even the condtion doesnt matter for the spare parts, if there in a bad way they can also be used as templates .

she is in a very bad way, but looks worse than she is , she was burnt on the port side on a fire dump, as you can see from the first 4 pictures, the parts i need are loads, as you can see from the last 3 pictures, from canopy to switches, panels, instruments, seat , the lot … if anyone can help, i would much apreciate it, even if its just a few leads,

This is the only Su-7 in the UK, and as such, I would like to be able to finish her , as a tribute to those that flew her .and to be able to display her at various uk shows .
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By: martinez - 18th October 2010 at 19:22

Hi All,

sorrry ive not given any updates, I have no access to the internet 🙁

i am using a friends laptop , i am still gathering info on the Su-7
will tell more when i am back online .Martinez PM sent 🙂

replied, check PM.

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By: merkle - 10th October 2010 at 09:32

Hi All,

sorrry ive not given any updates, I have no access to the internet 🙁

i am using a friends laptop , i am still gathering info on the Su-7
will tell more when i am back online .Martinez PM sent 🙂

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By: ozjag - 24th June 2010 at 02:29

Here are a few pics from a trip to Poland in 2004, it was a gloomy day so not the best quality. Paul

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By: merkle - 23rd June 2010 at 22:32

Good Man yourself Tony 😀

and Flanker man.. many thanks for the links, really interesting 🙂 I bet you had fun seeing all them old soviet birds:) ..

what other did you manage to sit in.. Mig 15 or 17 ..there a couple of my faves too.. 🙂

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By: Rocketeer - 23rd June 2010 at 18:04

Think its worth a bit more than £150 quid 😀 .. its quite tidy, and even though theres lots missing, but theres still quite a bit inside it .certainly restorable, and am i right in saying the Only F2 cockpit in the country ??:confused::D

Nope, I have WN890!

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By: Flanker_man - 23rd June 2010 at 15:02

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/su-7_files/su-7bkl_04.jpg

FWIW, from my travels around the former Warpac countries – and Moscow – there are Su-7’s at….

Khodynka, Monino and the Central Armed Forces Museums in Moscow.

Vyskov and Kbely, Czech Republic

Riga, Latvia

Krakow and Warsaw, Poland

My photos of some of them are here.

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By: TEEJ - 23rd June 2010 at 14:16

It is amazing what is out there. Taken in Afghanistan 2008 and probably long since gone!

http://scotfot.aminus3.com/image/2008-02-27.html

Quick update. The Su-7 appears to be in a museum.

http://www.aviationmuseum.eu/World/Middle-East/Afghanistan/Kabul/OMAR_Mine_Museum.htm

Probably worth trying to contact the company to see if they can obtain any instruments/parts?

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By: merkle - 22nd June 2010 at 07:31

Hi Merkle

Why are those Su 7’s sitting back on their tails? And where was the photo taken.

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Cheers Paul

Those Su’s are in the middle of Afghanistan.. Kabul i think, in its hey day the afghan air force was huge, and had 60 Su-7’s for a start . the Northern alliance used some (very few) and these are remnants of that airforce, there must be others, I have no doubt most of these willl be cut up and scrapped.. hence i said, ” look and weep” 🙁 … theres enough parts on one of them to get me all the bits i need, but due to war trophy laws, and the dangerous enviroment they must be in.. i dont think I would have a hope in hells chance.. I have however sent photo’s to the Ambassador of the afghan Embassy in London ,Just in case.. as you never know.. allthough i would consider myself lucky if i even got a reply.. .. such a shame 🙁

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By: ozjag - 22nd June 2010 at 02:46

Hi Merkle

Why are those Su 7’s sitting back on their tails? And where was the photo taken.

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Cheers Paul

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By: merkle - 21st June 2010 at 22:56

Yes it did, and very ‘agricultural’ when up close too! 😀

ahh yes, thats what i love about ruski stuff, simple, basic, but very very rugged and effiecient :D… just look at there Guns.. all over the world, and go on forever.. :diablo:

and Thanks for your support Ollie 😀

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By: MarkG - 21st June 2010 at 22:25

Gotta admit Mark.. that Mig 21 did look mighty tasty .. 🙂

Yes it did, and very ‘agricultural’ when up close too! 😀

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By: ollieholmes - 21st June 2010 at 21:52

I wish you the best of luck with this project. Its nice to see something out of the ordinary preserved and i hope you can get her to cockpitfest one day.

As for all the people slagging it off my advice is just to ignore them and carry on with a good project. Ive come in for my fair share of slating on this forum over the years and yes ive learnt from some of it which i will admit was my mistake and others ive just grown thick skinned to.

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By: merkle - 21st June 2010 at 21:29

One of the Delfins was owned by Retro Aviation, the other by Ian Brooks. Can’t remember who owned the Mig 21…seems an awful long time ago now!:D

Gotta admit Mark.. that Mig 21 did look mighty tasty .. 🙂 .. from what ive been hearing.. the Su-7 side by side with a Mig21 was like a Thunderchief .. next to a Skyhawk… Slight over exageration I know :p

wonder where the 21 is now :confused:

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By: MarkG - 21st June 2010 at 21:07

One of the Delfins was owned by Retro Aviation, the other by Ian Brooks. Can’t remember who owned the Mig 21…seems an awful long time ago now!:D

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By: merkle - 21st June 2010 at 20:51

Stubborn but at least I`m glad to hear that you are strongly determined to do something with it. All I can help so far is to point you to some friends, known pleople in Czech and Slovak republic(former Czechoslovakia) owning private aircraft museums, a/c collections and junkyards that are known for reconstructing of cockpits, airframes or bartering with aircrafts at all. I do not guarantee any result, they might point you to another people which say at last “I`m sorry” to you, but give it a try.

1. Technical museum of Military history, these guys are doing mostly cockpit reconstructions of former Cz. military aircrafts.
http://vhtm.valka.cz/
http://vhtm.valka.cz/projekty.htm
2. Aircraft museum Olomouc, an aircraft restoration society, they are working for another museums(also abroad) helping them to renew their exhibits. Could be promising.
http://www.letecke-muzeum.cz/kontakt/
3. Air park, a private collector and barterer of former Czechoslovak aircrafts, a lot of stuff in his deposits, mostly miiltary.
http://www.airpark.wz.cz/
4. Vyskov Aircraft historic museum, another private museum, nice collection of military planes including several Su-7, they perform restoration work as well
http://www.lhs-vyskov.cz/
http://www.lhs-vyskov.cz/airexp.html
5. Private aircraft collection, Martin town, restoration of museum exhibits.
http://www.aeromuzeum.sk/index.php?nav=3&ID=foto
P.S. will check our archives for any airframe, cockpit drawings and plans as we still have many Su-7 manuals in our libraries. I will let you know.

Many Thanks Martinez for the links you have sent.. one of them has allready got back to me.. fingers crossed eh.. never know, they might have something, however small..

Just another question to the cockpiteers.. who owns the soviet stuff ive seen on previous cockpit fests, many years ago a Mig 21 and more recently L29 -Delfin types.. I just wondered , as these guys may know of another spares source 🙂

Also XM692 .. do you still have any instruments ?.. 😀

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By: merkle - 21st June 2010 at 20:25

The clock that is supposed to be in the centre console is one of the copies of the Jaeger le Coultre chronograph. There are many on ebay from the Stans which are modern productions – but you can get the original ACH from ebay as well – I have an original 1961 which I purchased from a nice gent in the East. It took 3 weeks to get here. The mechanism on the original is far better than in the modern one.

That Goes without Saying ..reminds me of what my grandad used to say to me… “they dont build themlike they used too !:D;)”.. theres alot of truth in that think 🙂

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By: FarlamAirframes - 21st June 2010 at 19:39

The clock that is supposed to be in the centre console is one of the copies of the Jaeger le Coultre chronograph. There are many on ebay from the Stans which are modern productions – but you can get the original ACH from ebay as well – I have an original 1961 which I purchased from a nice gent in the East. It took 3 weeks to get here. The mechanism on the original is far better than in the modern one.

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By: REDBIRD - 21st June 2010 at 19:16

Merkle,

I wish you all the best with what is a bl!!dy difficult restoration, all kudos to you for taking this on.

Whilst I cannot help in any material way (not being a UK resident), I wish you all the best in what will be, to put it mildly, a challenging project.

All the best

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By: zoot horn rollo - 21st June 2010 at 15:59

I would also suggest a perusal of the pages of a document like ‘European Wrecks and Relics’ which will tell you where you might find Su-7 lying around central and eastern europe, which at least would give you an indication of which countries a car trip round might prove useful.

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By: Tropic Thunder - 21st June 2010 at 12:50

i have tried RetroAviation ,but havent heard anything as of yet??. Perhaps it would be worth me contacting them again ?

give them a ring… tel 01630 684040 and mob 07951 421288

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