I have started this as a new thread because I feel it is a good conclusion to the weeks events at Paris without having to go through all of the orders in the other thread/s.
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PARIS 2005: Airbus strikes further deal for 40 A320s
Graham Dunn, Paris (17Jun05, 16:07 GMT, 488 words)Airbus expects to disclose further details of a 40-strong commitment for its A320 family from an unidentified customer by the end of the month, after revealing 280 aircraft commitments and orders during the Paris Air Show.
Chief commercial officer John Leahy, speaking at the show today, said that he had originally hoped to announce the additional 40 A320-family orders during the event.
But he says that, while the deal was finalised during the show, the customer will make internal announcements first. He expects the customer to publicly disclose the deal before the end of the month.
The manufacturer has been able today to state that Germanwings is buying 18 more Airbus A319s – and placing options on a dozen – and that it has secured its first VIP customer for the A340-600. This takes its tally of order announcements for the show to 280.
These include 95 new commitments for its A350 aircraft – taking the total for the proposed aircraft to 125. Airbus says this “easily surpasses” its prediction of reaching 100 commitments by the Paris Air Show. Chief executive Noel Forgeard has said that Airbus is now aiming for 200 commitments for the programme by the year end.
“The feeling of the shareholders is this is a very solid commercial base for this aircraft,” says Leahy. Shareholders EADS and BAE Systems are set to approve the A350 formal industrial launch in September. Leahy says memoranda of understanding for the aircraft will move to become binding orders once the programme is formally launched.
Alongside the A350, Airbus also secured orders and commitments for five A380s, a single A340, 17 A330s and 162 Airbus A320 family aircraft.
Boeing built on its recent sales momentum for the 787, with a string of orders and commitments for its 737 and 777 models. While it has not announced any more 787 customers, it revealed new business for other types both from the show and over course of the last five days. These cover just short of 150 orders or commitments for 737 and 777 aircraft.
In the regional sector, Embraer secured further commitments for its E-190 from lessor GECAS, while the turboprop sector enjoyed an active show in a further sign of a resurgence in the sector. ATR announced orders for 20 turboprops during the show, while UK regional Flybe firmed up more Bombardier Q400 options.
Airbus and Boeing orders or commitments since 13 June 2005
Type/Quantity
CustomersAirbus A320 family 162
ABC (10)
Air Cairo (6)
Germanwings (18)
IndiGo (100)
TAM (20)
Tiger Airways (8)Airbus A330 17
Air Caraibes (2)
Jet Airways (10)
Kingfisher (5)Airbus A340 1
Private Saudi client (VIP)Airbus A350 95
ALAFCO (12)
GECAS (10)
Kingfisher (5)
Qatar Airways (60)
TAM (8)Airbus A380 5
Kingfisher (5)Boeing 737 110
Air Europa (18)
Alaska Airlines (35)
GECAS (20)
ILFC (20)
Jet Airways (10)
Ryanair (5)
WestJet (2)Boeing 777 38
ILFC (8)
Jet Airways (10)
Qatar Airways (20)Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
By: Grey Area - 22nd June 2005 at 06:26
I remember seeing the MD82 UDF demonstrator at Farnborough many moons ago.
Whatever happened to the concept?
By: US Agent - 22nd June 2005 at 05:01
UDF – Unducted fan
These engines have a set or twin set of contra rotating propellers that run directly off the turbine. This eliminates the need for a gearbox because of the direct connection. They were originally designed between a collaboration of NASA and General Electric. The Engines produced more efficient thrust – up to 20%. Due to the geometry of the engine however, they could only be fitted to certain existing aircraft and were deemed commercially unviable despite the significant advantages of fuel efficiency. Development of these engines is also an option for the future using less fuel. This type of engine has a bypass ratio of up to 30:1 meaning that for every 30kg of air moving around the engine, there is 1kg of air going through the engine core.
By: skycruiser - 21st June 2005 at 06:34
with the state of the oil industry and high costs, two is going to be better than four engines in new aircraft.
By: bring_it_on - 21st June 2005 at 05:39
probably not.
By: bring_it_on - 21st June 2005 at 00:36
lol 😀
By: US Agent - 20th June 2005 at 17:36
5 a380’s compared to 134 (a350+777+a340) meaning that the point-point concept for the future is working better then the hub-hub one for long distance travel
Interesting…that would appear to be a cogent observation. 😉
By: bring_it_on - 20th June 2005 at 15:57
What was really interesting from these orders was that there were 95 (acc to some 125?) a350’s ordered and 38 777 ordererd..whilest there were 1 order of a340 and 5 a380’s ordered…i can conclude 2 things out of this
1) the 777 trounced the a340 at this years show so 2 engines are gaining more acceptability.
2) 5 a380’s compared to 134 (a350+777+a340) meaning that the point-point concept for the future is working better then the hub-hub one for long distance travel
By: rdc1000 - 20th June 2005 at 13:49
I know the articles that were posted regarding the Indigo order said 100 ‘commitments’, but did we ever get official confirmation that the order was indeed 100 “firm orders” and not more like “orders including options”… :confused:
I don’t exactly know the answer to this, and had to read it twice myself to be sure! It wouldn’t be the first time this has happened though. JetBlue ordered a huge fleet of brand new Airbus’ to launch their services.
By: bring_it_on - 19th June 2005 at 23:41
this is what boeing has to say..
you just never can predict what’s going to happen in this business. If you’d told me that Boeing would have ended the week with orders and commitments for nearly 150 airplanes, I wouldn’t have believed you. But that’s what happened.
And so I want to return to what I’ve said before. The timing of order announcements is up to our customers. They announce when and where they choose. Boeing doesn’t stockpile orders and save them up for air shows. It just so happened that the timing and the orders all came together these past several days.
In fact, a big order coming in for Boeing on Wednesday didn’t even come out of the Air Show: Alaska Airlines’ order for 35 Next Generation 737s. That order would be big news any time of the year, as the single-aisle 737 continues to reign as our best-seller.And we’re also pleased by the demand for our twin-aisles – the 787, 777, and even the 767. These airplanes deliver more of the nonstop service passengers want. Successful airlines know it’s all about the passengers.
Orders and commitments for 38 Boeing 777s were announced this week, with the emphasis on the 777-300ER. That’s the largest 777, capable of taking 365 passengers and cargo from Paris to Los Angeles or Newark to Hong Kong. The 777-200LR, the world’s longest range airplane, can connect almost any two cities in the world, even loaded with passengers and cargo.
MORE ORDERS COMMING SOON GUYS..
By: Dantheman77 - 19th June 2005 at 04:39
well the last thing this forum wanted in bragging rights to who got the most orders…A or B……..Congrats to all Manufactures…(In alphabetical order) Airbus,Boeing,Canadair/De Haviland and Embraer
By: Airline owner - 18th June 2005 at 18:39
Wow, some good orders there for A and B. I’m surprised that the new Indian lo-co, – Kingfisher has already ordered 5 A380’s!!!
By: Dantheman77 - 18th June 2005 at 00:10
Private A340-600??? Is this going to be an airborne bowling alley or a rifle range? who needs that length privately?
tongue in cheek comment…..
Roman Abramovich…so he can tell Jose Mouriho what formation he wants them to play in champions league matches :rolleyes:
By: wysiwyg - 17th June 2005 at 23:16
Private A340-600??? Is this going to be an airborne bowling alley or a rifle range? who needs that length privately?
By: US Agent - 17th June 2005 at 20:22
I know the articles that were posted regarding the Indigo order said 100 ‘commitments’, but did we ever get official confirmation that the order was indeed 100 “firm orders” and not more like “orders including options”… :confused:
By: Grey Area - 17th June 2005 at 19:36
A satisfactory week for all concerned, it would seem.
Which is splendid….. 😀
By: wilag - 17th June 2005 at 16:23
Congrats to both Airbus and Boeing. A nice mixture of orders from both parties.
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