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Supermarine Spiteful, a hypothetical project

This is a pet-project of mine for many years (and I am not the only one) so here is a hypothetical project for you to bite at:

Just to see how active the current state of the warbird scene is suppose a set of Supermarine Attacker wings were located in Pakistan (or India) and brought to the UK.

Would this have the result that these wings were bought by one of the well known collections and used as the start to reconstruct a Supermarine Spitful (or Seafang as the Attacker had folding wings) and if this was the case was there sufficient material available such as drawings to complete such a project. And who would be best suitable to do the recontructing work: Historic Flying or Aircraft Assemblies.

And finally (as this is just fictional) will there be any interest in a Spiteful/Seafang?

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By: HP57 - 11th January 2005 at 14:03

Oops, typo, sorry 😮 😮

But you are the first to spot it.

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By: Chipmunk Carol - 11th January 2005 at 00:17

a Supermarine Spitful

Spitful?
If I say the obvious, you’ll just say I’m spiteful.
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By: jeepman - 10th January 2005 at 18:38

Cees – sorry mate – I only go on holiday with Jeepwoman!!

But if you’re going, you could borrow the 1914 Pattern Rolls-Royce A/C from it’s current custodians for me and hide it in the freight pannier under the Hali’s fuselage

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By: HP57 - 10th January 2005 at 18:22

Jeepman,

You and I need to go on holiday together. First to India and then to Pakistan.
We can store the Attacker wings inside the Halifax fuselage which we will tow behind your jeep. :p

We need some very large bags as well. :rolleyes:

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By: jeepman - 10th January 2005 at 18:17

Blimey I must be slowing in my old age

Wonder if there are still any Halis in Pakistan………………;)

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By: HP57 - 10th January 2005 at 18:02

Jeepman,

You were actually the second I had expected to react after Mark 12. :p

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By: jeepman - 10th January 2005 at 17:57

Spiteful/Seafang

I think so, the first Spitful prototype was a high back Mk XIV fuselage fitted with the new wings.

Cees

As you know Cees – a pet project of mine as well and you probably recall I too raised it many moons ago on either WW,VAF or WIX suggesting the Indian sub-continent as a source of wings. I too got the same answer about the rarity of Attackers…. 🙂

IIRC the Spiteful/Seafang fuselage was simply a late mark Spitfire fuselage with a raised cockpit area

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 10th January 2005 at 17:26

Nine posts and so far no one has asked . . .

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By: HP57 - 10th January 2005 at 16:12

I think so, the first Spitful prototype was a high back Mk XIV fuselage fitted with the new wings.

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By: Mark V - 10th January 2005 at 16:00

Thanks for the pic links. As I remembered, the wing spar on the Spiteful must be further aft than on the last Spitfires (ie a deeper D-box) as it gives a shorter nosed appearance, assuming the spar picks up on stub spars at the base of frame 5 like all its predecessors.

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By: Mark V - 10th January 2005 at 15:57

Cees,

Yes, yes, Airframe Assemblies and yes.

With a set of wings & u/c – very achievable technically, assuming Griffon 58 and contra-prop from a Shackleton..

Mark

My enthusiasm was temprered by thoughts of the CAA’s reaction to such a project in the UK. Good project for a US based person though (so long as they have the work done here of course).

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By: HP57 - 10th January 2005 at 13:48

This is one of your pet-projects too eh Mark?

Let’s hope it will be reality in the future.

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By: Mark12 - 10th January 2005 at 13:44

This is a pet-project of mine for many years (and I am not the only one) so here is a hypothetical project for you to bite at:

Just to see how active the current state of the warbird scene is suppose a set of Supermarine Attacker wings were located in Pakistan (or India) and brought to the UK.

Would this have the result that these wings were bought by one of the well known collections and used as the start to reconstruct a Supermarine Spitful (or Seafang as the Attacker had folding wings) and if this was the case was there sufficient material available such as drawings to complete such a project. And who would be best suitable to do the recontructing work: Historic Flying or Aircraft Assemblies.

And finally (as this is just fictional) will there be any interest in a Spiteful/Seafang?

Over to you

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Cees

Cees,

Yes, yes, Airframe Assemblies and yes.

With a set of wings & u/c – very achievable technically, assuming Griffon 58 and contra-prop from a Shackleton..

Mark

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By: Mark V - 10th January 2005 at 12:32

I would like to see a Spiteful/Seafang fly. Its theoretically possible given the wings as a starting point but would be tricky to do here in the UK if it was to flying status (CAA issues) as it would be a conversion to a different type and would not fall in to the Permit catergory unless you obtain a Spiteful i/d and call it a restoration. Without looking at photos I recall we are talking about a Mk22/24 type Spitfire fuselage but there are major changes in asmuch as the wings are mounted further forward than the Spitfire. If anyone has a photo perhaps they could confirm.

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