Supermarine Walrus L2255 Recovery Photo's Circa 1938

Found the Times Report

Looks like a nasty one, thanks for sharing the pics. Looks like you came to the right place for info on them!

no problem james mate,

just thought i would let you know, by the way the singapore is coming on fantastic, 5 profiles done several more planned so if ya fancy doing a book:diablo:

…As in the Singapore flying boats? Not done any of the ones that operated off Hornsea Mere by any chance have you?

hi jo,

no probs, if nobody tells you , then ya can’t fix it, glad i could help.

hi JDK,

the link you posted is virus loaded so beware:mad:

Sorry about that folks, and thanks to James for alerting me about this.
My site did get compromised a few days back but I guess I hadn’t found all the nasty residue…. fixed now.

Jo

Hi Lee

I just found this…

Copyright duration in photographs subject to Crown Copyright

• Photographs taken before 1 June 1957 whether published or unpublished
-copyright expires 50 years from the end of the year in which the
photograph was taken

• Photographs taken after 1 June 1957 and published before 1 August
1989 – copyright expires 50 years from the end of the year in which the
photograph was first published

• Photographs taken between 1 June 1957 and 1 August 1989 but not
published before 1 August 1989 –copyright expires 31 December 2039

I conclude then that anything taken in 1957 and 1958 that i have, that was published 50 years ago or more is ok and is public domain.

I had a look at your website and the content is fresh and simply wonderful.

FANTASTIC!!!!

May i ask… should you find a moment to look at some of my images on Flickr, then please do so by clicking this image… i am trembling already, eeeek!!!

Thankyou

Regards

DesertBlooms

hi,

the original image is over 50 years old so there is no crown copyright infringement. …..from what i gather they are copyrighted for 50 years.

DB

Crown Copyright actually comes into force from 1957 onwards – an arbritary date that was decided upon a few years ago. Therefore there is no rolling 50 year figure…..sadly.

Still, it would be nice to see the shots!

Lee

Most accounts have the prototype Seagull V (Walrus) crashed and lost in Gibraltar harbour (no fatalities). [Co-author of [I]

To avoid looking this up Serial K4797 ex ‘N-2’ Pilot Lt D C V Pelly

hi,

I have a small number of images from HMS Ark Royal R09 from 1957/1958 with aircraft in them. They have an official look about them as opposed to being a crew members personal pics but the original image is over 50 years old so there is no crown copyright infringement. I also have some ovely large official images of HMS Albion with fantastic deck scenes taken from a helicopter showing Royal Marines eqpt and helicopters etc but they have the CROWN COPYRIGHT stamp on the back dated 1962 and from what i gather they are copyrighted for 50 years.

You may have seen these but anyhow here is the Ark Royal …

Photo 1:
Circa 1958 – Sea Hawk ‘ START UP ‘.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2531/4192353437_4f91e64d01_b.jpg

Photo 2:
Circa late 1950’s – Sea Vixen and Scimitar.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2579/4193115338_c5aa5a9b62_b.jpg

Photo 3:
Circa 1958 – HMS Eagle relieves HMS Ark Royal off Cyprus.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2597/4198096717_7bb1aa55d5_b.jpg

Regards

DesertBlooms

Interesting shots. Any more Fleet Air Arm-related images to share?

Whilst mentioning books…..Fleet Air Arm Fixed-Wing Aircraft since 1946, Air-Britain, 2004, Sturtivant, Burrow, Howard ;):)

no problem james mate,

just thought i would let you know, by the way the singapore is coming on fantastic, 5 profiles done several more planned so if ya fancy doing a book:diablo:

the link you posted is virus loaded so beware:mad:

Hmmm. I went through Jo’s home page without any issues, but the direct link I posted comes up with a warning, as you say.

Jo’s website: http://futurshox.net/

hi JDK,

the link you posted is virus loaded so beware:mad:

Hi James,

Thankyou for your very interesting reply.

I just searched for your book… i’ll track down a copy.

Here are two other similar images from the recovery:

Photo 1:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/4197742965_03f8983a1b_b.jpg

Photo 2:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/4192408467_a90392fce7_b.jpg

In addition to these and the photo’s on HMS Stalker in my initial post I also have photographs of two other Walrus’, again purchased from EBAY which i have included below.

Photo 3:
Supermarine Walrus III – Eastliegh 9th Sept 1947

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2761/4197742957_0efba5a066_b.jpg

Photo 4:
Supermarine Walrus X9467 ( G-AIIB ) – 01/03/49 – ‘ WESTON ‘ dont know what happened here…

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4198523252_33c305697c_b.jpg

Thankyou again for your interest and comments

Regards

DesertBlooms

Fascinating photos! Thanks very much for posting. I am amazed anyone survived that first accident… it looks like it would have drowned any possible survivors… very lucky chap indeed.

With respect to the final shot, I am imagining that this is from a disposal area, judging by the other rather dishevelled looking Walrus in the background, and the massed lot of equally rough looking lorries. Perhaps a storm blew her over, but my guess is that she’s about to be scrapped.

Post as many shots as you like… these are fantastic!

Cheers,
Richard

Hi James,

Thankyou for your very interesting reply.

I just searched for your book… i’ll track down a copy.

Here are two other similar images from the recovery:

Photo 1:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/4197742965_03f8983a1b_b.jpg

Photo 2:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/4192408467_a90392fce7_b.jpg

In addition to these and the photo’s on HMS Stalker in my initial post I also have photographs of two other Walrus’, again purchased from EBAY which i have included below.

Photo 3:
Supermarine Walrus III – Eastliegh 9th Sept 1947

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2761/4197742957_0efba5a066_b.jpg

Photo 4:
Supermarine Walrus X9467 ( G-AIIB ) – 01/03/49 – ‘ WESTON ‘ dont know what happened here…

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4198523252_33c305697c_b.jpg

Thankyou again for your interest and comments

Regards

DesertBlooms

G’day,
I’m not familiar with those photos, very interesting. The aircraft has been destroyed or the nose broken off into the full cockpit area, so it’s not surprising it was a fatal accident. Very sad, but good news that one crew-member survived. I’d guess he was either thrown clear or was in the wireless operator’s position behind the partial aft-cockpit bulkhead which appears, despite cracking, to still have integrity. Just a guess though.

To digress a moment, accident reports and accounts are not always accurate as to what happened. Most accounts have the prototype Seagull V (Walrus) crashed and lost in Gibraltar harbour (no fatalities). In fact the aircraft was recovered, as shown in a some photos that Jo Mitchell posted on her website that he father had taken. (Sequence here: http://futurshox.net/aerothumbviewer.php?itype=walrus)

Paul’s ability to find data is impressive, isn’t it?

Cheers
James

[Co-author of Supermarine Walrus & Stranraer published by MMP books]

Hi paulmcmillan

Mush appreciated that info , thankyou. Thats a more comprehensive report than i have seen.

Your knowledge of where to find details is much better than mine.

Thankyou again

Regards

DesertBlooms

Friday Dec 23rd 1938

Sub-Lieutenant John Frederick Repington Collins RN Pilot Killed
Acting Sub-Lieutenant Peter Noble Boxer RN Missing (Killed)
Lieutenant Francis Myrddin Griffiths RN Slightly Injured

Aircraft was from 714 Flight, HMS Manchester

Accident occurred near Ernakulam, Tavancore State.

Walrus was alighting near Cochin Harbour when it struct some telephone
wires across the harbour backwaters. Crashed into shallow waters