May 24, 2004 at 5:14 pm
Come on, Mike J, let’s get a proper thread going for our visit.
I’ll kick off with a picture of you in action in front of the only Junkers 86K in existence – a Swedish B3C built by Junkers in Dessau in 1938 and later converted into a transport. Its last flight was on 3 June 1958.
By: Papa Lima - 25th May 2004 at 20:05
Now this one ought to be the subject of a quiz – the Sparmann S 1-A – P1. Designed by Edmund Sparmann, who came to Sweden from Austria in 1919 and founded his own aircraft factory in 1932. Three of these were delivered in 1936 and designated P1. More came later. They were used for general flying training and transport, with the long edurance of 4 hours. Some had canopies and skis could be fitted. The engine is a 130 hp Gipsy Major and they served until 1947. This one is c/n 8, serial 814.
By: Papa Lima - 25th May 2004 at 19:56
Since the “golden oldies” at this Museum seem to be popular, how about this Sk.1 Albatros B.II. This example was built here at Malmen in 1925 – a “late model” I suppose. 120 hp Benz engine. I expect that you experts know that Ernst Heinkel was the designer.
By: Seafuryfan - 25th May 2004 at 19:47
What a fascinating series of photos. Some wonderfully restored and maintained machines on view. I particularly liked the Breguet – you couldn’t have created a better ‘caricature’ of an early aeroplane. And blow me, I thought there were no J86’s left – the recent ‘Learn to Fly a Spitfire’ programme in the UK showed some excellent formation footage of smoky, diesel powered 86s – I could smell the fumes!
Thanks to all.
By: JDK - 25th May 2004 at 15:43
The Breguet C.U. 1 … which suffered several accidents, the final one a forced landing on September 9, 1915. Restoration began in 1977 and is now complete.
And back into service, a little late, no doubt?
By: Growler - 25th May 2004 at 08:45
Fabulous photos of a quality museum. I particularly like the J-21, of which I had a lovely Heller model as a kid, typical Swedish inventiveness, and, of course, it became the first Swedish jet with an engine change and a tail mod.
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 21:43
Thanks for the group shot, Mike, duly copied into my computer.
Here are my outdoor shots, taken between the raindrops, I expect yours will be much better!
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 21:23
So it’s up to me to report that when we asked for the extra lighting to be switched on (twice) they cheerfully and gladly did it! Naturally we thought of how they might have reacted had we been at Hendon!
Plus it was no problem for us to wander up and down with my fairly large stepladder, although some of the other visitors looked askance!
By: L9172 - 24th May 2004 at 21:00
Haven’t got time to say anything, I’m too busy painting ‘kill’ markings below the cockpit.
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 20:22
Thanks for the beer at OW, Andy.
I dare say I could arrange another similar trip for the chosen few – pity more couldn’t come over for yesterday’s visit. We managed to include two maritime museums as a bonus on the Saturday. I expect Mike J and L9172 might add more pics and comments.
By: Andy in Beds - 24th May 2004 at 20:16
Great!!
Peter
Thanks for posting.
Wonderful pictures.
I’ve just added this to my long list of places I must visit.
The World War One vintage airframes look fantastic.
Thanks for posting.
All the best and it was good to see you at Old Warden the other week
Andy
PS Robbo get your camera we’re going North–way North!!! π π π
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 19:51
My final contribution is this view of L9172 in the Gripen simulator, busy shooting down Drakens – no doubt he’ll brag about his score later!
The simulator operator was however so impressed by Hugh’s skill that he let him stay on long after closing time!
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 19:44
The Breguet C.U. 1 (Swedish Air Force B 1 = Biplane no. 1) with an 85 hp Salmson Canton-Unne engine, which suffered several accidents, the final one a forced landing on September 9, 1915. Restoration began in 1977 and is now complete.
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 19:17
This is thought to be the only surviving PhΓΆnix fighter in the world, a DII built in Austria, serial 947 and delivered by train in August 1933. Known by the Swedes as the J1, there were 31 in service from 1919 to 1933.
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 18:56
Thanks Robbo, I’ trying to avoid stealing Mike J’s thunder (he took over 300 photos). He will also have a couple of tales to tell about lighting and planes on sticks, I guess (If he doesn’t, then I will!).
Here is a delightful gem, the Sk 9, otherwise known as the DH60T Moth Trainer, this one on floats.
By: Stieglitz - 24th May 2004 at 18:54
Yes, it is nice to see some unusual (but important) types such as the junkers 86K and the SAAB J21A-3.
Thanks for the photos!
J.V.
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 18:16
Some more general views of the collection, and the diminutive SAAB 210 which tested the wing for the Draken, being a 7/10 scale model. Only 3 test pilots were small enough to get in and fly it! Max. speed was 600 km/h, powerplant an Adder.
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 17:34
Another interesting and rare aircraft here is the SAAB J21A-3, c/n 21364, serial 21364, with as the guide told us a “dynamite” explosive ejection seat.
By: Papa Lima - 24th May 2004 at 17:27
Here is one of the Harts, Swedish designation B 4, most of which were powered by the licence-built Nohab Mercury My VIIA. Although this particular aircraft, c/n 52, serial 714, did not serve in Finland, several did and wore the Finnish blue swastika.