Thursday, May 27, 2004 Posted: 1210 GMT (2010 HKT)
ZURICH, Switzerland (Reuters) — British Airways is leaving it to Swiss to end a spat over the Swiss airline’s frequent-flyer reward scheme, “Travel Inside” magazine reported, quoting a BA official.
Swiss International Air Lines was due to join the strategic oneworld alliance at the end of March, a move seen by many as key to its fight for survival.
But the flag carrier first needed to reach an agreement with oneworld founding member BA to join its frequent flyer programme, and that has been stalled because Swiss does not want to hand over guarded client data.
“It is now up to Swiss to approach us and to let us know how they want to proceed,” Paolo De Renzis, the British Airways country manager for Switzerland, told the Swiss magazine.
He said talks between the two airlines continued despite the spat.
“We can take the next step only once this point is sorted,” De Renzis said. “We have agreed to this integration in principle, but we did not expect such technical and logistic difficulties, which will also cause costs for us.”
He declined to comment on talk that Swiss might join Lufthansa’s Star Alliance instead.
Swiss has named former Lufthansa manager Christoph Franz as its new chief executive, which together with the hold-up with BA, have sparked talk that the cash-strapped carrier, formed from the remains of grounded national airline Swissair, may turn to Lufthansa after all.
The German carrier has hinted it would restart negotiations with Swiss if it were approached, but Swiss has said its strategic goal remains to join oneworld.
Nobody at Swiss was immediately available for comment.
Its highly illiquid shares were unchanged at 12.05 francs by 1150 GMT, while British Airways stock traded 1.5 percent higher at 253.15 pence. Lufthansa shares were 1.3 percent higher at 11.58 euros.
I really don’t see how Swiss would benefit Star. There are plenty of Euro-Airlines in it as it is. Now if Virgin wanted to join, different story! 😉 Swiss would be good for OneWorld, however. I don’t see the big deal of them releasing that info to BA. Are they just being stubborn?
By: bmi-star - 28th May 2004 at 21:34
Yeah it’s fun, why do some people want to put dampner on things?
By: LBARULES - 28th May 2004 at 19:29
I wish I could get one over on someone but I can’t as ive flown to few types!:)
Im sure im not the only one here who likes to recount their flights and see what types other people have been on, so let us have some fun!
By: Mark L - 28th May 2004 at 19:08
No-ones getting anything over on one another, if people started inventing the planes they had flown on just to impress that would be silly, but just documenting the types flown is hardly vain?
I also just remembered by Sikorsky S.61 and Bell Jetranger flights as well, very interesting 🙂
By: greekdude1 - 28th May 2004 at 19:08
It’s like a playground.
I miss playing in the sandbox. 😉
By: bmi-star - 28th May 2004 at 18:46
Exactly! Don’t be a spoil sport!
By: Bmused55 - 28th May 2004 at 18:33
It is pathetic. You all just want to get one over the other. It’s like a playground.
Oh do shut up, it’s only a bit of fun!
By: Speedbird744 - 28th May 2004 at 18:25
It is pathetic. You all just want to get one over the other. It’s like a playground.
By: greekdude1 - 28th May 2004 at 16:56
Pathetic as this may be, I can’t be remiss about posting my ‘short’ list of types flown:
Lockheed:
L-1011
Boeing:
727-200
737-200/300/400/500/700/800
747-100/200/300/400
757-200
767-200/300
777-200
Airbus:
A300-200/600
A310-200/300
A319
A320
A321
Douglas:
DC-9
MD-90
DC-10-10/40
Everything else:
CRJ
ATR42
Emb-120
Beech1900D
J31
J41
Piper Cherokee
There’s lots of overlap in terms of Airlines flown on particular types. I won’t even go there. Also, I might have flown on a 707 in 1976. This is still unconfirmed as I was 2 years old and I’m still hunting down timetables to confirm this.
By: bmi-star - 28th May 2004 at 16:28
This is not pathetic!
By: Speedbird744 - 28th May 2004 at 15:35
Crickey, you guys are so vain. How pathetic is that (listing what airlines and planes you have flown).
By: Arabella-Cox - 28th May 2004 at 15:35
Ok then,
Britannia Airways x4
JMC Air x2
Thomas Cook x4
British Airways x5
easyJet x4
Sri Lankan Airlines x2
Qantas Airways x2
Continental Airlines x2
Air Transat x2
Caledonian Airlines x2
My Travel Airways x4
Airtours International x3
Air Atlanta x1
Monarch Airlines x2
Ryanair x2
Excel Airways x2
Dan Air x2
I think that is it….
By: LBARULES - 28th May 2004 at 15:20
Right:
Airlines:
Britannia x 13
Jet2 x 4
Monarch x 3
Ryanair x 2
Virgin Sun x 2
MyTravel x 1
Thomas Cook x 1
Air Atlanta x 1
Air Europa x 1
Aircraft
Boeing 737-200/300/800
Boeing 757-200/300
Boeing 767-200
Airbus A300-600
Airbus A320-200
Lockheed Tristar
And some of you think your lists are boring!
By: bmi-star - 28th May 2004 at 14:58
Can we do an airline one as that would be long by me again:D
By: Mark L - 28th May 2004 at 14:30
Well if this is degenerating into a “What type have you flown?” thread I don’t care!
Airbus:
A319
A320
Boeing:
B732/3/7/8
B752
B763
Embraer:
ERJ145
BAE:
146-300
RJ100
ATP
DeHavilland Canada
DHC8 300
DHC8 Q300
DHC8 Q400
With B734/5, ATR72 and Trislander being added in the summer 😀
By: bmi-star - 28th May 2004 at 14:05
Thanks Bhoy i will!
OK here’s my list then:-
Boeing:-
727-200
737-200-300-400-500-700
757-200
767-200-300-400
777-200
Airbus:-
A319(july 2004)
A321(july 2004)
A330-200!!
BAe:-
BAe 146-200-300
AVRJ RJ85
JS41
ATP
Fokker:-
F70
F100
MD/Douglas:-
MD80-82-90
DC-9-15
Embraer:-
ERJ145(july 2004)
I’m sure there is one more but can’t remeber
So quite a long one:D
P.S i knew there was one, the A330-200, my best flights ever MAN-ORD-IAD-MAN on my precious bmi!:D
By: Bhoy - 28th May 2004 at 13:58
I wouldn’t see much point of watching a screen on an RJ, when there is fantastic scenery below. This will be my 1st ERJ flight. Bhoy, wot everu say bout Swiss ERJ’s it won’t put me off.
P.S BHX tommoz can’t wait!
Not trying to put you off the ERJ, I had my first flight on one just two months ago, also LX, although it was only a 20 minute hop down to ZRH on the way to Barcelona. Nice little plane. I was on HB-JAJ.
Enjoy yourself.
guys, what’s with all the lists? are you accusing me of having flown on lots of types? it’s soooo not true…
Avro RJ 100
A310-300
A319-100
A320-100
A320-200
A321-100
A340-300
BAC 1-11
BAe 146
737-300
737-400
737-500
747-100
757-200
767-300
DHC8-300
ERJ 145
L1011-385
MD82
MD83
Saab 340B
Saab 2000
By: andrewm - 28th May 2004 at 13:40
Lol actually i forgot to add -800 and -200 to 737 (fr)
By: Bmused55 - 28th May 2004 at 13:36
Bit OT but i feel a bit hard done by. Everyone mentions their trips on all these aircraft where as all i have mustered in my sad pathetic life is A321, A320, A319, Boeing 737-300 and -700, Fokker 27 and Bae 146 🙁
Feel better, for my list is smaller
737-200
737-300
737-700
757-200
Dash-8
Avro RJ100 or BAe 146-200 (sabena, don’t know the EXACT type)
granted by one it is a shorter list, but none the less pathetic.
By: andrewm - 28th May 2004 at 13:27
Bit OT but i feel a bit hard done by. Everyone mentions their trips on all these aircraft where as all i have mustered in my sad pathetic life is A321, A320, A319, Boeing 737-300 and -700, Fokker 27 and Bae 146 🙁
By: bmi-star - 28th May 2004 at 13:12
ok, just to expand on the ERJ/32S thing, The 320 series’ have the LCD screens so you’ve got something to do, ie watch the map and the fleet news they put up (no sound, though, which is maybe just as well when the obligatory Donald Duck Cartoons startup), whereas in the ERJ there’s not much to do.
I wouldn’t see much point of watching a screen on an RJ, when there is fantastic scenery below. This will be my 1st ERJ flight. Bhoy, wot everu say bout Swiss ERJ’s it won’t put me off.
P.S BHX tommoz can’t wait!
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