T-28 Trojan In Combat

I seem to remember T 28s were also flown (by Cuban pilots) in combat against Simba rebels in the Congo in the early sixties.

Not just Cubans. Also flown by (Tschombe hired) South African, British, and Belgian pilots. Several of these planes were exported to the US in the late 70s. One is under rebuild in Belgium, and another is displayed (fuselage) in the UK.

T J

I seem to remember T 28s were also flown (by Cuban pilots) in combat against Simba rebels in the Congo in the early sixties.

They were also used in Rhodesia against “insurgents” during the Ian Smith regime.

Ali

The Laotian was imprison after he landed rofl

Someone defects to your country (you seem to be a bit more supportive of the North so I’ll just go with that one…) and you laugh because he was put in prison?

Am I missing something here?

I would hope you wouldn’t wish ill upon anyone who wished to defect your country. I certainly wouldn’t wish ill upon anyone who wished to defect to the United States which is my home nation.

Rather depends on why someone defects – if a criminal “defects” to another country to avoid prosecution in their country for say, murder, theft, assault, etc. then imprisonment must be the option followed by judicial repatriation to their home country. I suspect that stealing an aircraft is theft in anyone’s language.

Kindly remember the international agreements on hijackers – most are returned to the country whose aircraft they hijacked. Otherwise we would have more international anarchy than we have now.

As to the other implication – the reality is that the North Vietnamese were the moral winners. If we westerners had done the right thing and supported the Vietnamese rather than the illegal return of the French then Ho Chi Minh would not have been driven into the arms of the Russians. As with Cuba we have never learn the important lesson – stay out of civil wars and national uprisings against colonialist oppressors.

I seem to remember T 28s were also flown (by Cuban pilots) in combat against Simba rebels in the Congo in the early sixties.

The T-28 pilot who defected to North Vietnam was a Thai national serving in the Royal Lao Air Force. Apparently, he had left the Royal Thai Air Force under rather vague circumstances, after which he went to Laos where he joined the RLAF. On March 16, 1963, he defected to North Vietnam. The North Vietnamese didn’t know what to do with him, and, just to be on the safe side, threw him in jail.

Initially, the T-28 was stored, but in September 1963, it joined the VPAF as s/n ‘963’ (i.e. September 1963). The C-123 incident occured on February 16, 1964. However, the C-123 was badly damaged (not shot down), with one of the pilots being killed by 12.7 mm machine gun fire.

This T-28 was most likely the one that served in the VPAF. The T-28s of the South Vietnamese Air Force (VNAF) had all been withdrawn from use long before April 1975. It is, however, possible that some of the T-28s operated by the Kampuchean air arm were incorporated into the VPAF after the Vietnamese invasion of that country in 1978/79.

Regards,

Jan

Note, that the T-28 was also used by the french Air Force il Algeria, and known as “Fennec” (a small local fox) in this role…

http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v3/v3n1/frcoin.html

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_354.shtml
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The Laotian was imprison after he landed rofl

Someone defects to your country (you seem to be a bit more supportive of the North so I’ll just go with that one…) and you laugh because he was put in prison?

Am I missing something here?

I would hope you wouldn’t wish ill upon anyone who wished to defect your country. I certainly wouldn’t wish ill upon anyone who wished to defect to the United States which is my home nation.

I find it funny because of all places he defected to the North, what did he expect?

The Laotian was imprison after he landed rofl

Someone defects to your country (you seem to be a bit more supportive of the North so I’ll just go with that one…) and you laugh because he was put in prison?

Am I missing something here?

I would hope you wouldn’t wish ill upon anyone who wished to defect your country. I certainly wouldn’t wish ill upon anyone who wished to defect to the United States which is my home nation.

Defections do work both ways…

Here’s a couple shots I found of RVN Trojans at Nha Trang

The Laotian was imprison after he landed rofl:D

Nice pictures btw;)

How did the North get T-28’s before the war?

I thought only the South had them and the North didn’t get any until after the war.

Defections do work both ways…

Here’s a couple shots I found of RVN Trojans at Nha Trang

How did the North get T-28’s before the war?

I thought only the South had them and the North didn’t get any until after the war.

Thanks for all the great links guys.

If anyone has any good photos please post them. I like the ones I’ve seen thus far.

T-28 of the VietNam People’s Air Force (VPAF). This one shot down an American C-123 in 1964.

Hi PhantomII,

More on the Air America use of the T-28 in Laos can be found here: http://www.utdallas.edu/library/collections/speccoll/Leeker/index3.html

Also, if you scroll down on the URL mentioned above, you will find basic information on T-28 operations by the Khmer Air Force.

On the www.acig.org web site, you can find several articles about the air war in Laos and Cambodia. More here: http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/cat_index_17.shtml

I’ve also written a few pieces about the air arms of Laos and Cambodia. The Lao articles can be found here: http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/aa-eastasia/laos/laos-af-home.htm, and some information on the RLAF use of the T-28 here:http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/aa-eastasia/laos/laos-af2-aircraft.htm#t28d

The Cambodian articles can be found here: http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/aa-eastasia/cambodia/cam-af-home.htm, and specific information on the T-28 here: http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/aa-eastasia/cambodia/cam-af1-aircraft.htm#t-28

Regarding the VNAF’s use of the T-28, some information, photos etc, can be found here: http://vnaf.net/

I would also recommend that you try to find Flying Dragons by Robert Mikesh, which is an excellent overview of the VNAF. This book contains much information on the early days of the VNAF, including T-28 ops. VNAF: The South Vietnamese Air Force 1945-1975 by Jim Mesko can be recommended as well.

Regards,

Jan

Try here………

http://www.t28.com/

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Laotian T-28

This will be a good start with a number of links.

http://www.warbirdalley.com/t28.htm