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TAF Oscars – one that flew without crashing

Hi with all the Hoo Haa over the Woops with the US Oscars heres a pic of the Pay/ Wanaka / Allen Oscar on a day she “Accidentially flew” at Wanaka and managed not to crash – It was doing “High Speed taxing ” (Sound familiar) and accidentially took off and flew for a bit Whoa Girl!!! I also point out that this was with the original engine fitted – and yes I have a Video and she sounds tremendous !!!

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By: ollieholmes - 28th October 2005 at 03:27

That site is very interesting. Now if only i had money, i like the look of those hurricane parts.

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By: setter - 28th October 2005 at 03:16

hunt Bros site …………..very interesting

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http://www.huntaircraftrecovery.com/news.htm

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By: ollieholmes - 28th October 2005 at 03:03

Thank you.

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By: setter - 28th October 2005 at 03:01

The answer is …………B25 thanks to Mk12 for a previous post and source of the PICS -heres the post reference
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23244&highlight=kuril
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By: ollieholmes - 28th October 2005 at 03:00

It does look like an a-20. Or possibly an a-26. I always got the idea japenese planes fuesalages where more rounded. That looks very Slab sided. It looks like its from something like a Liberator.

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By: setter - 28th October 2005 at 02:56

At the time of the recovery of the Oscars from the Kurils some other rare aircraft were recovered as well including a couple of Japanese twin engined aircraft – I can’t remember what they were and they aren’t up on Axis survivors site yet so I will have a look and see what i can find – I also seem to remember something about an A20 or A26 – Perhaps these are linked to the Fuse section in the pics

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By: ollieholmes - 28th October 2005 at 02:45

No. The set of photos before. There is something behind the wings behind the pillers.

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By: setter - 28th October 2005 at 02:34

Hi Ollie

If you mean this one, it is

Ki-43-II Hayabusa “Oscar” 5465 Australia – Australian War Memorial, Canberra. The remians have been treated to stop corrosion and ensure preservation.(On display in diarma as discussed above at the AWM )

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By: ollieholmes - 28th October 2005 at 02:12

Can anyone identify the fuesalage section in Setters first photo in his firs post?

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By: ollieholmes - 28th October 2005 at 02:09

Ki-43-II Hayabusa “Oscar” 6023 England Probably with The Fighter Collection previously with Australian War Memorial. Only a wing and firewall recovered. Disposed of in 1991-1992 (Subject of one of the pics I took above – It could be at Duxford or in storage – anybody know what the case is with this one for sure?)

Ki-43 Hayabusa “Oscar” England – Reported with The Fighter Collection, previously with the Australian War Memorial who disposed of a Ki 43 with no known serial in 1991-1992. (Subject of one of the pics I took above – It could be at Duxford or in storage – anybody know what the case is with this one for sure?)

Ki-43 Hayabusa “Oscar” England Privately owned, recovered 2003 from the Kuril Islands (Subject of the shots above from a previous post – I thought with Jim Pearce in the UK – is that correct?)

I believe from memory that one reported as with the fighter collection is the one i remember. The first one sound not enough of. I do not know about the last one.
I remember seing something on the racks in the hanger that looked like the reamins of the center section. That is in hanger 2.
I also seem to remember seing what could have been its remains in the restoration hanger. Can anyone throw any light on it? I have gone through my photos and cannot see it in the background of any of them. I will try to make a trip there sometime later this year to try and find it.

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By: setter - 28th October 2005 at 01:56

Hi here are 4 pics of the TAM restoration source wrecks plus 1 of three wrecks in Moscow awaiting restoration

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By: setter - 28th October 2005 at 01:49

Hi Guys this may sort out the locations etc I took this and the pics from the Axis aircraft survivors site –

Ki-43-I Hayabusa “Oscar” 4700 Australia Recovered from Alexishafen 1984. Formerly with the Australian War Memorial, Canberra, but now traded to a new owner in 1991-1992 (Wonder who the new owner was? JP)

Ki-43-I Hei Hayabusa “Oscar” 750 USA N750N ex ZK-OSC Flying Heritage Collection, Washington Recovered after WWII and given to Australian War Memorial. Sold in 1954. Previously at Wanaka NZ, airworthy but not flown. Will be restored for flight. (The one in NZ subject of all the pics above ex Col Pay etc JP)

Ki-43-II Hayabusa “Oscar” 6023 England Probably with The Fighter Collection previously with Australian War Memorial. Only a wing and firewall recovered. Disposed of in 1991-1992 (Subject of one of the pics I took above – It could be at Duxford or in storage – anybody know what the case is with this one for sure?)

Ki-43-II Hayabusa “Oscar” 5465 Australia – Australian War Memorial, Canberra. The remians have been treated to stop corrosion and ensure preservation.(On display in diarma as discussed above at the AWM )

Ki-43 Hayabusa “Oscar” England – Reported with The Fighter Collection, previously with the Australian War Memorial who disposed of a Ki 43 with no known serial in 1991-1992. (Subject of one of the pics I took above – It could be at Duxford or in storage – anybody know what the case is with this one for sure?)

Ki-43 Hayabusa “Oscar” England Privately owned, recovered 2003 from the Kuril Islands (Subject of the shots above from a previous post – I thought with Jim Pearce in the UK – is that correct?)

Ki-43 Hayabusa “Oscar” England Privately owned, recovered 2003 from the Kuril Islands (Subject of the shots above from a previous post – I thought with Jim Pearce in the UK – is that correct?)

Ki-43 Hayabusa “Oscar” USA 4 Oscars are reported to be at the Texas Aircraft Factory. After restoration one will go to The Champlin Fighter Museum in Arizona. 2 are for sale at $800.000? (Old news now with Goshawk in the US being finished (I had thought the donor wrecks came from the Kurils as well – does anybody know for sure)

If anybody has any coments on the above I would love to hear them

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By: ollieholmes - 28th October 2005 at 00:59

I dont remember Duxfords example bing so complete. i thought the wings where in many bits.

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By: setter - 28th October 2005 at 00:58

Ollie

You may well be getting confused with these which are I believe similar but not the same remains owned by a UK collector and put up on the forum some time ago. Don’t know if they are still in the UK but I think they came from the Kurils from memory – I think the collector was Jim Pearce but that could be wrong.

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By: ollieholmes - 28th October 2005 at 00:56

Does anyone know where that has gone now? I have not been able to find it.

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By: JDK - 28th October 2005 at 00:31

The IWM DX Japanese wreck is a Zero, not an Oscar.

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By: ollieholmes - 27th October 2005 at 23:32

I thought i saw the remains layed out at the imperial war museam duxford a few years ago? I may be mistaken as i have been out of the aviation scene a few years. Got distracted by other things.

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By: setter - 27th October 2005 at 22:59

Hi This shot is of the AWM example when in storage at the Mitchell annex near Canberra and if you look carefully you can see the Oscar Fuse sitting on the racking on the left centre of the pic – this is not I think, the same aircraft as went on display later. I will post the serials and locations of all the AWM components later

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By: Stieglitz - 27th October 2005 at 15:42

What can I say! Great! I look forward to it! 🙂

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By: setter - 27th October 2005 at 15:40

Hi Stieglitz

No worries – just took some finding – there are a couple more I will deal with tomorrow

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